SoccerAmerica - FC Dallas keeps MLS clubs perfect with historic win 08/18/2011

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Luis Arreola

commented on: August 18, 2011 at 9:24 a.m.

How can it be historic when Puma fjelded its B-C team? MLS should learn from Mexico's "Academy" system. They gave these kids much needed experience and exposure to keep their talent flowing. Most of these kids are "Homegrown " and will play pro and don't pay young foregin players more than their upcoming talent.

Luis Arreola

commented on: August 18, 2011 at 9:44 a.m.

Paul, you obviously knew that Pumas didn't field their A team but you still managed to call this win historic. This is a top USA A team vs a Mexican B-C team. Pumas will win this group regardless but at the moment sees other games as more important. If anything this should be a wake-up call to MLS fans to see how far their teams are from competing with the rest of the world. Colorado was very lucky in beating El Slavador's Metapan. That is more their true level. Maybe this win should be dubbed "historic".

Daniel Clifton

commented on: August 18, 2011 at 10:41 a.m.

It is an historic win regardless of the team Puma's coach chose to field. I believe Luis' comment about the Mexican "Academy" system is well taken. MLS has to improve the Academy system. That will be one of the best ways if not the best way to improve the development of talent in the US. The fact that this is the first win ever by a MLS team in Mexico is a clear indication that MLS is not at the level of the Mexican league. When are MLS teams going to compete with teams from the rest of the world?

Tom Galioto

commented on: August 18, 2011 at 11:27 a.m.

Its historic because its the first time ever. The haters will never be happy. If we field a B team and gets hammered then MLS doesnt understand the importance of these games. If we field our best team and win against someone that fielded a team that wasnt their best...then we played a weak team that was developing its young players. You cant have it both ways. Be happy that we finally won south of the border, regardless of the opponent we are showing progress. MLS is 4 for 4 this year. Glass is half full... BTW, The PUMAS coach isnt some genius that was giving his young players a chance, he was resting his regulars and thought he might be able to sneak a win through. Not so much... I bet he doesnt try it again this year.

Paul Cox

commented on: August 18, 2011 at 11:40 a.m.

Of course it's historic. Even if it only signifies that the Mexican teams can't send out a bunch of reserves and count on a draw, the result is still the same- someone went down there and snagged a win. The reality is that MLS has been getting closer to the Primera and with both leagues in season, clubs from both the US and Mexico have to make very similar strategic and tactical decisions. The UNAM coach went with a bad lineup. Had they won with all regular starters, would we be saying "they only won by playing their top squad"? My Sounders blew a two-goal lead in Monterrey last CCL. Other MLS teams continue to get closer and closer. The reality is that it is historic, it shows that MLS quality is better than ever and continuing to improve.

Luis Arreola

commented on: August 18, 2011 at 2:16 p.m.

Its a counter to the cynicism displayed in these articles overall. The win for Dallas was a good win but not "historic". Its good because the Pumas will now know to field a better team maybe and that helps the MLS as far as respect but to beat a B-C team and call it "historic", really? If that's historic then Chivas beating Barcelona is "other wordly ". Chivas fans and Mexicans are more realistic and saw this game as a good fun win but not historic. Why? Same thing. Barcelona did not have its A team there. I would love to see MLS teams improve and catch up to the world but it won't happen if their fan base is so unrealistic and is happy with these results. Other leagues

Luis Arreola

commented on: August 18, 2011 at 2:26 p.m.

Other league's teams like Pumas are constantly pushing their home grown talent and risking losses like this one but in the long run it is Pumas who get more out of these games than Dallas did. MLS is pushing being able to sign foreign young talents to bigger contracts in more numbers and leaving more home growns out to dry. Yea, that's historic alright.

Luis Arreola

commented on: August 18, 2011 at 3:54 p.m.

Its time people k ow the truth of this failed system. Super, why do you think no Illinois players are on national teams like U14 and U15? Do you have a reason? This means that you are one of the few that agrees with the USA scouting dustman, correct? Who's ridiculous now? My point was that both games were meaningless. Pumas clearly did not take this game seriously as did Barca. I agree its a good win for Dallas but not historic. That's ridiculous. Historic is to beat a team with its full A team in this case. Why isn't anybody questioning the fact that Pumas did not show MLS any respect by fielding such a team against one of its top teams? I saw the game and Dallas did not look good against this B-C team and were lucky to win. Low expectations I guess. Knock yourselves out.

Scott Ellis

commented on: August 18, 2011 at 10:20 p.m.

Regardless of the circumstances, who played who didn't, it is "historic". The first win for MLS in Mexico. Period. Thirty years from now someone will read that scoreline and not know, or possibly not even care to know, the status of the players involved. If you want to be mad, or bitter, about the result be mad at Pumas. The result is what it is.

Luis Arreola

commented on: August 18, 2011 at 11:14 p.m.

am not mad. You guys sound a little mad. Its just not a win that truly evaluates where USA soccer compares to Mezico clubwise for these obvious reasons.

Erik Perez

commented on: August 19, 2011 at 3:05 a.m.

Hmmm, seems like the sides have been reversed. Back in the 2009 Gold Cup it was the USA fans complaining that Mexico had beaten their B team (or was it C team?). So now it doesn't matter that FC Dallas beat Pumas U-20? Give me a break, hypocrites.

Luis Arreola

commented on: August 19, 2011 at 8:44 a.m.

Gold Cup, now that was historic!! Actually Perez, most of the Mexicans I know didn't see that gold cup as a big accomplishment and Mexico didn't have it's full squad either.

Luis Arreola

commented on: August 19, 2011 at 12:32 p.m.

Stuper, you guys? If you mean us Mexicans born in USA, why would we be threatened? I am a soccer fan. Period. I like the Fire and Red Bulls and I wish them always but I am realistic. USA soccer is going nowhere with its current system. MLS will import more and more players with this current development system as we can already see. I have a2 kids that love soccer and would like to see them succeed in USA soccer but the system doesn't give them the best chance. That's because you guys no nothing about soccer and conform with very little.

Luis Arreola

commented on: August 19, 2011 at 1:14 p.m.

I am not worried though. I will make sure my kids get the opportunity in Mexico or somewhere if needed but it would be nice to know that the opportunity is best here. Up,Up and awayyyyy!!!

Luis Arreola

commented on: August 19, 2011 at 5:32 p.m.

Stup, why would you assume my kids could not make a team? My kids get invited to play for all the top academies and programs all the time. My son will make the USA team but I just have to do more to get him the opportunity. If he does not make it he will get a first look at what the competition is here and then we can decide if he can tryout again here or go to Mexico. My criticism is more towards the fact that many kids will not get the chance because they don't know how to pursuit it. As an American born in America wich constitutes every great country in this big continent I support many "American" teams. As a USA citizen I also root for MLS teams like my Chicago Fire as I have said before. What I see as a failed system is the way player development is being handled here. Then to glorify a win like Dallas over Pumas C team is to contribute to a scam of the Us people.

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