Join Now | 
HomeAboutContact UsPrivacy & SecurityAdvertise
Soccer America DailySpecial EditionAround The NetSoccer Business InsiderCollege Soccer ReporterYouth Soccer ReporterSoccer on TVSoccer America Classifieds
Paul Gardner: SoccerTalkSoccer America ConfidentialYouth Soccer InsiderWorld Cup Watch
RSS FeedsArchivesManage SubscriptionsSubscribe
Order Current IssueSubscribeManage My SubscriptionRenew My SubscriptionGift Subscription
My AccountJoin Now
Tournament CalendarCamps & AcademiesSoccer GlossaryClassifieds
'Kids face tough choice' (Q&A Lorne Donaldson, Real Colorado, Part 1)
by Mike Woitalla, March 14th, 2012 2:47AM

MOST READ
TAGS:  high school boys, high school girls, youth boys, youth girls


Interview by Mike Woitalla

Lorne Donaldson is the Executive Director of Coaching of Real Colorado, which has nearly 5,000 players and competes in the U.S. Soccer Development Academy and ENCL. We spoke with Donaldson about the high school vs. club debate in Part 1 of our interview.

SOCCER AMERICA: Real Colorado has been part of the U.S. Soccer Development Academy since its founding in 2007. What’s your assessment of the Academy?

LORNE DONALDSON:
It’s been good for the kids. It’s been good for the players. But I want to qualify that. I don’t think every player fits this mold. It takes a special player to really do it.

What happens now because of the 10-month season and the high school [ban] -- I think it will change that mold again.

My roster next season I can tell already won’t be as big. I know some kids will play high school. It’s going to be a telling time for a lot of these kids. I don’t think every kid should play Academy. I think some kids are better off in high school.

SA: Do you believe kids who opt to play high school will still be on track for the higher levels?

LORNE DONALDSON:
If we’re talking about the national team stuff, I think if you’re a player of that level, you have to play in the Academy. If you’re talking about "higher level" being college, it depends on what level of college.

The top-notch Division I schools, I think those coaches will demand that you actually play at the Academy level. The Academy prepares you better for the college.  I’ve watched college games over the last few years and it’s become a lot better game. The competition at the Academy prepares you better.

SA: What do you think of the the high school vs. club debate since U.S. Soccer announced the 10-month Academy season?

LORNE DONALDSON:
It’s tough. I have mixed reactions. I go to watch the high school games and watch these guys in their social setting with their high schools. I think it helps them to grow a bit. A kid who excels in high school, they became the big man on campus, as they say, and get their name in the paper, etc., etc.  I think there’s some good in that.

SA: So why can’t the Academy and high school ball complement each other?

LORNE DONALDSON:
If all the high schools were on the same season, I think we could work it out. But some high schools play spring, some play fall, and so it’s a very tough schedule to work out -- and the weather is a big factor.

The Federation had to make a decision and say, “Listen, here’s what we’re going to do to get players prepared.”

SA: How have your players reacted to having to choose between Academy and high school?

LORNE DONALDSON:
It hasn’t hit them yet. We’re just moving into that stage and they’ll have to make a choice in July when we tryouts. … It’s going to be tough. ... I just got an e-mail from the mother of a player whose son has a chance to be captain of his high school team and she wants to talk about high school and Academy. It's a tough choice to make.

SA: On the girls side, there's U.S. Club Soccer’s ECNL (Elite Clubs National League), which was founded in 2009. Do you think U.S. Soccer should launch an equivalent of the Academy on the girls side?

LORNE DONALDSON:
I think ECNL is fine. I think the ECNL rules are fine. All the national team girls are out there. Most of the best clubs, 95 percent of the best clubs, are playing ECNL.

The events are getting better. I don’t think they [U.S. Soccer] should take it over, but there should be still a little more money they can put in. They should have somebody in the front office they should pay to help run it.

SA: How do ECNL costs compare to the Academy’s?

LORNE DONALDSON:
It can be even more expensive because in the Academy you have two teams but in the ECNL you have five teams – from U-14 to U-18. There’s a lot of expenses.

But I can tell you one thing. They enjoy it. The good thing the girls have going for them is they still play high school.

We can control our ECNL schedule so we don’t play during high school season. Some other clubs might choose to play in high school season but we stay away from it. It makes life easier.

SA: Has Academy play increased the costs?

LORNE DONALDSON:
The Academy has driven the cost up for the players. It’s also driven the costs up for the clubs. Our location requires a lot of travel.

And the Academy youth clubs are competing with the MLS clubs, whose Academy teams are free. We have to figure out how to raise money.

A lot of the better Academy players can't afford the costs and are scholarship players. So we gotta find a way to scholarship players. It’s not just us. It’s a lot of clubs. And if there’s an MLS team close to you, most of them will flock to the MLS club because it’s free.

(Look for Part 2 of this interview, in which Lorne Donaldson proposes solutions to creating opportunities for low-income children and other ways to improve player development.)



5 comments
  1. d griffin
    commented on: March 14, 2012 at 10:51 a.m.
    I understand why the move toward the academy, but my problem continues to be that academy options exist in major cities. It is an unfair advantage. If it is modeling the system after what is taking place in Europe, then there is a fundamental misconception on how the game is structured in the states. Unlike Europe, specifically England, we don't have professional soccer clubs in almost every city. The US is much larger and soccer is not a mainstream sport. If D1 schools, as implied by the article above, will require Academy level play, then you have just killed the dreams of many young players around the country who 1.) do not live near an academy and 2.) would have astronomical expenses in a failing economy to relocate/drive to play for an academy. As someone who resides in a smaller community, which children who aspire to great things in soccer, the whole movement is, again, unfair and completely ignorant of the size and breadth of this country.

  1. John Smith
    commented on: March 15, 2012 at 9:02 a.m.
    Why not follow the ECNL model if girls are allowed to do both high school and academy? Why are the girls not treated the same and the expectations the same? I do agree that the season for HS soccer needs to be the same throughout the US. You already have a base with HS soccer why not improve it for those 3 months. Rules need to be changed on the HS side to be more consistant with FIFA and allow players from the same school to train together loner.

  1. Jack Niner
    commented on: March 15, 2012 at 9:43 a.m.
    While I appreciate Mr Donaldson's comments, although they are obviously self-serving, he never mentioned what is the expected improvement of demanding 4days/ wk, 10 months per yr training at his Academy? What are the incremental deliverables his Academy will deliver for more time and $$$? It's all just 'more must be better, right?' kind of thinking seems to me. Of course the kids and their parents have to buy into this thinking, literally, for it to work. Sorry, it's Hucksterism to me.

  1. Bill Anderson
    commented on: March 16, 2012 at 11:20 a.m.
    Husksterism... Brilliant Jack Niner. This is more of the same bilge we have been hearing from the "Big" Clubs for the past decade. Unless you are playing for the MLS Academy, you are NOT an Academy Player. The rest is just puffery for the parents. A sham for the enrichment of the coaching directors of the "Big" Clubs. I have no problem at all with Colorado Rapids having an academy and demanding whatever they want from the players. They are paying the bills. I do have a problem with "Real Colorado" selling an "academy" program to the parents, with no possibility of advancing to their MLS Team ('cause they don't have one).

  1. michael cassady
    commented on: March 17, 2012 at 10:53 a.m.
    Great comments and on the money. Pay to play,long distances,big cities,academy in car,and more....all to ready for D1 college soccer?? 4 month season,controlled by NCAA,who coud give a cr.. about soccer?? We are not there.Second US divisions in chaos always..very little quality play in any area.


Sign in to leave a comment. Don't have an account? Join Now




AUTHORS

ARCHIVES
FOLLOW SOCCERAMERICA

Recent Youth Soccer Insider
Unhappy with your coach? How to respond    
Invariably as I talk to players, there are usually complaints surrounding coaches. I'm sure that the ...
Coordinated tryout process would help relieve spring stress    
Soccer teams are finally able to get outside to begin their practices in preparation for the ...
Latino Inclusion: How far have we come? (Part 1)    
Only two decades ago, the United States had never had a Hispanic head coach at any ...
Thomas Rongen returns to grassroots    
Thomas Rongen has been head coach of four MLS teams, coached the USA at four U-20 ...
The Discipline of Being in Position for ARs    
In many game situations, I could make a case that the ref's best position varies but ...
Brilliant books for kids: Messi, Ronaldo, USA ... South Africa    
Lionel Messi preferred to play with marbles and collect picture cards, seemingly uninterested in the soccer ...
Top item on to-do list as spring season kicks off    
With the spring season kicking off, this is the perfect time to make sure you've got ...
Ref Watch: Are All Games Equally Important?    
During the 1990s, I worked as a Senior Art Director at Manhattan ad agency Lowe McAdams. ...
11 Tips for Coaching the Little Ones     
"I got recruited to coach my kid's soccer team. Any advice?"
Kekuta Manneh: 'Soccer has just one language' (When They Were Children)     
With MLS having just kicked off its 19th season, the Youth Soccer Insider's "When They Were ...
>> Youth Soccer Insider Archives