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USA finishes 22nd in Turkey
June 29th, 2013 4:11PM
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TAGS:  under-20 world cup


[UNDER-20 WORLD CUP] The USA finished 22nd in the overall standings of the 24 teams at the Under-20 World Cup, ahead of only Cuba and New Zealand, which went pointless in Turkey. It's the USA's lowest finish since FIFA expanded the tournament to 24 teams in 1997 and its second worst finish overall. It finished 15th out of 16 teams in its first appearance in 1981 in Australia.

U.S. U-20 World Cup Finishes:
1977 -- did not qualify
1979 -- did not qualify
1981 -- 15th (of 16 teams)
1983 -- 11th (of 16 teams)
1985 -- did not qualify
1987 -- 11th (of 16 teams)
1989 -- 4th (of 16 teams)
1991 -- did not qualify
1993 -- 8th (of 16 teams)
1995 -- did not qualify
1997 -- 15th (of 24 teams)
1999 -- 11th (of 24 teams)
2001 -- 13th (of 24 teams)
2003 -- 5th (of 24 teams)
2005 -- 11th (of 24 teams)
2007 -- 7th (of 24 teams)
2009 -- 18th (of 24 teams)
2011 -- did not qualify
2013 -- 22nd (of 24 teams)

  1. R2 Dad
    commented on: June 29, 2013 at 5:15 p.m.
    We aren't condemned to eternal suckage: This is an example of good players developed by good coaching, but it's not the result of US Soccer's positive influence on the game in the US. Sunil, what have you done to change US soccer today? Because it's not enough, and I'm not waiting 40 more years until MLS gets "better".
  1. Randy McKee
    commented on: June 30, 2013 at 9:09 a.m.
    We are hearing from many different angles to "be patient" and "we're doing better." But another positive development is the demand from the lovers of soccer around the country who are pushing for better soccer from our teams up and down the national team ladder. I'm hoping that our voices will be heard and that someone will step out of the shadows and help get USSF to a higher level. Sunil is a great guy and has had a great impact on American soccer. However, isn't it in our best interest to have a person at the helm who is loyal to US soccer with 100% of their efforts? Whose opinions are not skewed by business or employment connections? I think it's time for that. Sunil has four more years so we are going to be stuck in that mode for at least that long. It's time to find a successor who is 100% for US Soccer.
  1. James Froehlich
    commented on: June 30, 2013 at 10:28 a.m.
    I am the last person that my friend and family would accuse of being optimistic about anything, but I find it extremely frustrating to read the overwhelming angst generated by the elimination of our U-20 squad. Is there no semblance of perspective left in US soccer? Does making it to the knock-out round, in and of itself, really mean that much. Please folks, take a minute to think about the other teams that made it out of the group stage -- Turkey, Greece, Uzbekhistan, Iraq. Does losing to Spain and Ghana, tying France mean that we are worse than those teams? or, more importantly, the teams THEY beat. Obviously, winning is always better, however to totally ignore the positive change in the US style of play and what that means for the future is myopic. We played positive, attacking, skillfull(sometimes) soccer and didn't quite measure up against 3 of the best teams in this tournament -- please CHILL!!
  1. Peter Skouras
    commented on: June 30, 2013 at 12:07 p.m.
    Hey James, I would suggest you concern yourself with US Soccer. Leave the other countries alone. You better believe the FIFA U-20 World Cup means the world to every single nation in the world. And this is coming from a former United States U-20 International. I am embarrassed! Regarding Turkey, Greece, Uzbekhistan, Iraq...and let's add EGYPT, their footballers are "light years' ahead of American players and their current players are now worth "millions" on the transfer market especially the EGYPTIANS...Did you see what they did to the "English?" TOOK THEM TO SCHOOL MY FRIEND! Peter Taylor will be immediately "SACKED" upon his return by the FA. Everton with his Liverpool, Man. U, Arsenal etc. U-20 players! Overated James...what you need to do is take about 10 years off and spend 1 year in each country before you make the comments you did! Why? Because the information you have either comes from Soccer America or some other ridiculous source. WATCH THE TOURNAMENT MY FRIEND...RESPECT WHAT THE SMALL NATIONS ARE DOING! I predict a Spain v ???? Final!
  1. David Mozeshtam
    commented on: June 30, 2013 at 3:55 p.m.
    Sorry, James, I didn't see much positive, attacking, skillful soccer. Very little. Only because we had a bunch of players who are supposedly more skillful than those in the past doesn't mean that they really are, nor that they are capable of achieving a good result. I was much more impressed by US U-20 teams of the past decade. At least they played hard. And, by the way, why should I think about Turkey, Greece, Uzbekistan, Iraq? What is that supposed to mean?
  1. Peter Skouras
    commented on: June 30, 2013 at 7:12 p.m.
    David, as you know, I am a former US U-20 International to say the least...the comments made by our friend we need to just "leave it alone!" But James...the 1980 side compared to today's team? Are you watching the Brazilians dismantle the Spanish? Today's side wouldn't get a kick against us! The "Pride and Passion" we had was indescribable!! Walt Chyzowych...RIP Coach!
  1. Peter Skouras
    commented on: June 30, 2013 at 8:08 p.m.
    Speaking of the "other team," it should be stated as "National Teams " you might want to "educate" yourself Mr. Froehlich on what "ethnicity" created American Soccer. I myself am a Greek American but played as a 14 year old for the Maccabi Los Angeles...yes, Greeks and Israelis.Your sort of comment "other teams" is understood! Take a trip around the world Mr. Froehlich a few times and then you'll understand! We're good though!
  1. Luis Arreola
    commented on: June 30, 2013 at 10:52 p.m.
    Peter, i think that what James points to more than anything is that the style we played is a good start for the pool of players we have all over the USA. It is also the play that most USA fans want to see and get behind. Our development structure, i agree with you 100% but I think this style will have psoitive results like maybe holding on to our best players that are leaving to Mexico, El SAlvador, etc. National teams. ANd he does have a point. Without disrespecting the nations you mentioned above they can not be seen as top dogs as Spain and France. Not yet anyway. Its good that they are proving otherwise but Spain is king and France has the most impressive talent of most. What James is saying is USA would have possibly made next round in a different group and I have to agree he has a point.
  1. Luis Arreola
    commented on: June 30, 2013 at 11:01 p.m.
    We didnt even qualify last year at this tournament.
  1. wes windsor
    commented on: July 1, 2013 at 9:33 a.m.
    Peter, were you a former u-20 national team player? Didn't catch it the first 2 times.
  1. Peter Skouras
    commented on: July 1, 2013 at 9:53 a.m.
    Oh yes...the was the first US U-20 team to qualify for a U-20 Youth World Cup. We finished 2nd to Mexico ahead of Honduras, El Salvador and Canada...El Salvador and Mexico dominated the CONCACAF from the start!
  1. Jogo Bonito
    commented on: July 1, 2013 at 10:58 a.m.
    I think we different problems now. Tab picked a team of very skillfull players. That's nice but the team building and teaching skills is something very difficult to do. Especially in such a large country. I think many US Soccer coaches think it's easier than it is. You need very skilled teachers and coaches to apply a philosophy to players and then produce results. We keep promoting guys that have little experience coaching. I think Tab is a good coach, but shouldn't do everything. He's not skilled that way. Bring in more people with a proven record of motivating players and getting results. These people work in youth clubs and yes, even HS and NCAA have some very skillfull motivators. These kids in Turkey and other YNTs I've seen look void of any personality and leadership. Often that's the difference when it come to results.
  1. Al Gebra
    commented on: July 1, 2013 at 2:39 p.m.
    So Peter what happened after your U20 experience, soccer wise
  1. Jogo Bonito
    commented on: July 2, 2013 at 7:18 a.m.
    Peter mentions "pride and passion" and he's correct. US Soccer lines to throw around this catchy phrase, but it's not an easy thing to actually put into a p layer's or tram's head. It's a philosophy. Something that comes from a certain behavior that players pass on to the next generation of players. US Soccer doesn't hire coaches that are skillful in this area anymore. I know Peter played for the late Walter C., but I was not a huge fan of his coaching all the time, but he did, 100%, create a better picture of "Pride and Passion" then the coaches I see in US Soccer today. He loved his job and conveyed that passion to his players.
  1. Dennis Mueller
    commented on: July 2, 2013 at 11:02 a.m.
    If you actually watch the games that the US played, you should be able to see that this is actually one of the better youth teams the US has fielded. It is true it was guilty of some awful defending at times and it is clear that Ramos did not choose backs with the speed necessary to handle fast forwards, but this US team actually played soccer, pressed and did not simply rely upon athletic defending to get narrow results. I would have liked to have seen better finishing, but the US created chances which is way more complex than simply hitting the net. The defending can be fixed with a combination of more speed and better focus on the 100% concentration needed. The goal-scorers will get better. If nothing else, this group of players were taught some valuable lessons by the Spanish and Ghana who did not let the US off the hook when they made mistakes.
  1. Jogo Bonito
    commented on: July 2, 2013 at 11:18 p.m.
    I agree, Dennis. I have no problem with the team Tab picked. They were much more watchable then many previous u-20s. My point is that picking a team is one thing. Coaching and motivating that team is better left to people with a proven record of success in that area. It's not an easy skill and ex-players just think they can coach. Unfortunately, many are not skilled in the dynamics of team management. I like Tab, he just could use some help.

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