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Now Vucetich is shown the door
by Paul Kennedy, October 17th, 2013 11:51PM

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[MEXICO] Mexico went through three coaches in four games but stayed alive in its bid to qualify the World Cup finals when the USA rallied to beat Panama, 3-2, in stoppage time. But it will take a fourth coach to get El Tri past New Zealand in the intercontinental playoffs as the Mexican federation has, according to media reports, fired Victor Manuel Vucetich and replaced him with Miguel Herrera, coach of first-place Club America, which just happens to be owned by Televisa, the Mexican television giant that has a lot riding on Mexico's qualification for the World Cup.

Mexico organized weekly camps in Mexico City for Vucetich to prepare El Tri for the final Hexagonal matches against Panama and Costa Rica, and he recalled such players as former captain Rafael Marquez for the two Hexagonal matches.

Mexico went into the final games in fifth place, trailing Panama on goals scored, but overtook the Canaleros when it won at home, 2-1, on a golazo from Raul Jimenez, coached by Herrera at Club America.

But the trouble Mexico had in putting away Panama for its only win at home in the Hexagonal presaged an ugly performance against Costa Rica in San Jose, where El Tri never looked like grabbing a second equalizer after it fell behind, 2-1, in the 64th minute.

Players said it was a shameful way to qualifying -- needing a U.S. result to keep Mexico alive and ruin Panama's quest for its first World Cup appearance -- but Vucetich said the playoffs in four weeks would give him time to continue to work with the team, which will play Finland Oct. 30 in San Diego.

Now that job will fall to Herrera, who made 14 appearances for Mexico as a player and earned in the nickname "El Piojo" (The Louse).

America was his fifth coaching stint in a decade and the first club at which he won a league title. It won the 2013 Clausura and has run away with the 2013 Apertura regular-season title.


12 comments
  1. Bruce Moorhead
    commented on: October 18, 2013 at 12:40 a.m.
    Four coaches for 12 qualifiers this year? Smacks of desperation. If Mexico is also overconfident against New Zealand, they will go down. The Kiwis are pesky!

  1. Chris Sapien
    commented on: October 18, 2013 at 2:13 a.m.
    "Desperation" would be an improvement! If the above is true, now they are just an embarrassment!! Do you think that, we can please stop with the "mexico has superior player skill" non-sense now?? And the 'when mexico regains their form" BS?

  1. Garrett Isacco
    commented on: October 18, 2013 at 7:55 a.m.
    The US has had three coaches since 2002 and Mexico now will have its 4th coach this year. No wonder they are doing poorly. Go New Zealand!

  1. The Mexican
    commented on: October 18, 2013 at 8:04 a.m.
    Mexico does have superior player skill. Thats a give in. And of course Mexico is out of form but look out when they regain it. Why you hatin dude??

  1. The Mexican
    commented on: October 18, 2013 at 8:05 a.m.
    Chris, just be happy USA advanced the way they did and stop with the hatefuleness. Enjoy it in a positive way. Or cant you do that?? Is this what being an American is all about??

  1. Chris Sapien
    commented on: October 18, 2013 at 1:48 p.m.
    Dear Mexican (really original there), Results speak for themselves! They have had 10 months to figure things out...I call it as I see it, with no bias, unlike yourself. If you don't think 4 coaches in a year, and only 7 goals scored in ten qualifiers (only 3 at home, winless against the top 3 in the hex, shut-out five times in ten games & backing-in to fourth place the day they lose...) is an idictment of their skill level, then I feel sorry for you. BTW, the article is about mexico, not the US. Stay on topic.

  1. Ric Fonseca
    commented on: October 18, 2013 at 3:04 p.m.
    To Mr. Sapien: I do believe that you and "The Mexican" have a right to speak and write what you feel and believe, as guaranteed by our nation's law of the land. And fyi, I am also another Mexican born there, US Citizen here, Army/Navy veteran, retired coach and administrator, US Soccer veteran, etc., etc., oh and btw I'm a retired teacher US History(college) And yes, Mexican soccer seems to be out to lunch, but more so is/are the head honchos of the Mexican federation, who MUST share a large chunk of the blame, as they're so deep into patronage and need to be replaced by a new generation of guys who are more in tune with modern futbol, not the antiquated version of Mexican futbol that in and of itself needs to change from top to bottom. So, in short: SI SE PUEDE!!!

  1. Chris Sapien
    commented on: October 18, 2013 at 3:28 p.m.
    I have no doubt that you know more about that than me Ric, since you are usually one of the first to post on any mexico related article.......a few mexico supporters I know and/or I work with, say the same thing. Opinions are fine.....keep them relevent to the article, and if someone chooses to challenge another posters opinion, they should back it up with relevent facts. Not the drivel of "why you hatin dude" or calling someone out for "hatefullness". What are we, ninth-graders around here.......?

  1. Paul Stierle
    commented on: October 18, 2013 at 11:42 p.m.
    In 2012 Mexico was on top. In 2013 they are at the bottom. I love mexican soccer but something is not clicking with their national team right. And somehow Klinsman is clicking. We are even using some Mexican americans and faulted Klinsman not using more for our first and only loss. I have always believed that the top teams in europe could beat any national team because they are together most of the year. It takes a special coac h to gather players for games every once in a while. This has not been Mexico's year but 2012 was. But I must admit I was rooting for Panama in that last half as they wanted it badly. Like Manchester City 2 years ago we score 2 in overtime in a more german way. Good luck Mexico, you have inspired the USA to get better over the years. Okay I am done rambling. Love to hear your opinions Ric as I know where you have been.

  1. F B
    commented on: October 19, 2013 at 1:26 a.m.
    Here's an idea or two as to what the heck happened to MEX in the last 2 yrs to go from regularly schooling most of CONCACAF, and garnering multiple non-confederation victories against foes such as Brazil, to being in the current, yes disgraceful, predicament. First, I'll throw out an overly simplistic popular theory. MEX players are overconfident. The current crop is quite capable, and deserving of all the confidence they can muster. It includes former Olympic and Youth WC champions in the rather long list of < 25 y.o. 's that were capped at one time or another during this latest ill-fated campaign. If anything, a better argument is that these kids are under-confident, if one is to summarize their inability to dominate in the final third. OK, here's what I think may have gone wrong. We know the kids are a bit shaky, playing on the big stage, poor leadership from coaches, whatever, they show a tendency to make silly errors, especially when faced with bigger/stronger/faster opponents (Honduras, Panama, USA to varying degrees). All of this is to be expected, and the kind of stuff that can only be remedied by experience. Leadership on the field is the other cure. That leads me to the problem. What has happened to the seniors? These were the new wave, the guys that conquered all the Conference a couple of years ago. Starting with Chicharito, and on with Guardado, Barrera, Dos Santos, they've all been flat. I think these guys have all been victims of their success. Hernandez is the best example, getting picked up for arguably the 3rd-5th best league team in the world early in his career. Has one great season, gets injured a couple of times, and while he's on the mend, his team adds a few more very talented guys. He currently rides the bench way too much, and if he does not transfer this winter, he will rot at MU. Guardado is at another top team, Valencia, which until recently had too much talent as well (Soldado is gone now). He is an outstanding left mid playing as a defender??? Not sure how Dos Santos is doing at Mallorca, but he looks lost on the field with MEX. In short, all these guys need to be on teams that are playing them as starters, and in the same roles as they play in the national team. END PART I

  1. F B
    commented on: October 19, 2013 at 1:26 a.m.
    PART II Second, the forwards for MEX have not been busy enough. By that, I mean that the mids are not maintaining possession with enough calm and creativity to get the ball to the forwards consistently and often. Why? There is no dominant figure in the the midfield, no #10 with the experience combined with youth to settle the offense down and take command of the attack. Torrado is the most experienced mid they have called up, but he's too old, and too slow. Many said the same about Cuahutemoc Blanco for being too slow as well, but he made up for lack of speed with his ability to lead, and produce when necessary. I think that one of the smartest things Coach Aguirre did when he took over another MEX team at risk of not qualifying 4 years ago was to cap Blanco after his predecessors had seemingly blackballed him from the team. The problem now, is that there is no Blanco. What do you guys think? BTW CONCACAF has improved as a whole, with the USMNT probably making the biggest strides in the shortest time. Klinsmann has been able to for the most part rejuvenate a team that was mired in the rut of excessive reliance on the "old" men (Donovan, Bocanegra, even Bradley) and has done a good job marshaling the youth around guys like Dempsey and Altidore. If he can just ditch Jermaine Jones...

  1. Paul Stierle
    commented on: October 19, 2013 at 1:30 a.m.
    FB, I like your insight and will chew on it a bit


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