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A match like we've never seen before
by Paul Kennedy, July 8th, 2014 10:23PM

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[BRAZIL 2014] Germany coach Joachim Loew said he felt sorry for Brazil coach Luiz Felipe Scolari. After all, Germany had lost at home in the semifinals of the World Cup eight years earlier when Loew was Jurgen Klinsmann's assistant.

"It's a bit like in 2006, when Italy beat us in the semifinal," he said of the 2-0 overtime loss.

But any words of sympathy could not help. Brazil's 7-1 loss to Germany was like nothing we've ever seen before.

Brazil is not the first country that didn't win at home. In only six of 20 World Cups has the host country emerged victorious.

World Cup Host Champions:
1930: Uruguay
1934: Italy
1966: England
1974: West Germany
1978: Argentina
1998: France

But Brazil has now failed to win at home twice. After O Maracanazo in 1950, could anything be worse? Well, O Mineirazo is.

Numerous World Cup records were set on Tuesday in Belo Horizonte:

-- Germany's seven goals were the most scored and the six-goal margin of victory was the largest ever in the semifinals, heavier than the 6-1 wins by Argentina (over the USA) and Uruguay (over Yugoslavia) in 1930 and West Germany (over Austria) in 1954.

-- Germany scored five goals in the first 29 minutes, the fastest any team has scored five goals to start a game. (Yugoslavia had scored five goals in the first 30 minutes of its 9-0 win over Zaire in 1974.)

-- Germany's four goals in six minutes midway through the first half were the fastest four goals ever scored in the World Cup.

And on an individual level:

-- Miroslav Klose set the all-time World Cup scoring record with his 17th goal, breaking the record he shared with Brazilian Ronaldo.

-- Thomas Mueller became only the third player after Peru's Teofilo Cubillas and Klose to score five goals in two different World Cups.

-- Toni Kroos' two goals in 69 seconds were the fastest two goals a player has ever scored in the World Cup.



But all the German records were overshadowed by the epic proportions of the Brazilian defeat for which Scolari took responsibility.

“It’s a catastrophic result, which can be shared with the whole group," he said. "But I made the decisions, I decided the lineup and the tactics. The person responsible is me. It’s the worst moment of my career.”

The speed of the German blitz -- Klose's record-setter in the 23rd minute after Mueller's opener in the 11th and then Kroos' two goals and the excellent Sami Khedira's fifth goal in the 29th minute -- even stunned them.

“It’s hard to believe we were 5-0 up so quickly," said Kroos, "but I was there, I know what happened. It is obvious to us that we delivered a marvelous performance. If somebody had said before we were going to win 7-1, I would not have believed them."

But as much as he could feel sorry for Scolari afterwards, that did not mean Loew did not intend to take the fragile Brazilians apart.

"It was important to counter their passion and emotions with calmness, patience and persistence, also with courage and believe in our own strength," he told German network ZDF right after the game.

Loew said Germany's quick start left the Brazilians in shock.

"We knew that if we are quick on the counters, and go straight into attack after winning balls they will be disorganized," he added. "We played well in the first half."


32 comments
  1. I w Nowozeniuk
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 8:03 a.m.
    Feeling sorry for Scolari?!?!?; he's the one that chose the players and could not come up with a decent game plan. BTW, Ian Darke's commentary throughout this game was pitiful. His multiple references to Brazil's 'shameful' performance was demeaning, it was plain and simple that the Samba-kings had no structured game plan and were mentally beaten after giving up the second goal. Why this guy chose to beat a dead horse showed his unprofessional mindset of a wannabe commentator who has no concept of the game's nuances.

  1. Dean Costalas
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 8:21 a.m.
    I have no problem with Darke's commentary. Brazil was "shameful." These are professionals, some of the best players in the world. Yes, the gameplan was obviously terrible, but that doesn't excuse the non-marking, not running with your man after he passes the ball, not hustling back in the final 3rd, mindless turnovers of possession, etc. Big Phil will take the blame for this one (and he deserves some of it), but the players are the ones on the field. They gave up instead of fighting and, thus, had a disgraceful performance all the way around. The players deserve to be skewered.

  1. Al Micucci
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 8:26 a.m.
    Why no mention of the ridiculous yellow card Silva took that caused him to be suspended for this match? A Captain? A professional? They still should have been more competitive. Did they give up before the match even started?

  1. Stephen Brookfield
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 8:54 a.m.
    Ian Darke's commentary is an embarrassment EVERY match to any true soccer fan. There is no cliche this guy doesn't view as his best friend. I know watch on Univision whenever he's commentating. And while Steve McManaman's Scouse accent is delightful (I keep wondering how it plays in Butte or Mobile) someone should tell him his contract doesn't require him to agree with everything Darke says. What a joke these 2 are. Bring on the men in blazers! Their Benny Hill riff on the goals was hilarious.

  1. Ginger Peeler
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 9:59 a.m.
    Stephen, your comments on Ian Darke are spot on! He is a cliche-driven motormouth. And everyone in the booth with him goes along with his drivel. One exception, Julie Foudy took him to task either during the the Women's World Cup or the Olympics. He made one of his sweeping statements, she disagreed, he tried to argue with her and she put him in his place! Unfortunately, ESPN seems to love him, so we can probably count on him calling the final game. Men in Blazers? Priceless! I love their "talls and smalls"!

  1. RAMON ZAPATA
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 10:19 a.m.
    Scolari: The idol with mud feet has fallen! He traded Brasil's way of playing football for results, and they lost their soul...now they are shattered and humiliated.

  1. Santiago 1314
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 10:19 a.m.
    Julie Foody would be Awesome as Game Announcer... Male or Female... But what i want to know, is why she isn't Coaching our Women's National Team... Unfortunatley, I think that is our Next National Team headed for a Meltdown...

  1. Tim Gibson
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 10:20 a.m.
    Agree Ginger, I dunno who is worse, Darke, McBananaman or Alexi? We need a mix of MLS commentators or Despotes crews working these matches & dump these losers. Doing so can help to grow the CONCACAF game instead of alienating the "Joe Sketical" 1st time viewers that are watching after hearing co-workers talk of the exciting WC matches. When "Joe" tunes in & hears McBananaman milking his accent or Ian speaking in tongues while drumming up more ridiculousness - does not promote CONCACAF or MLS. .... On another note, I guess this result makes the Mex Vs Brazil match look different now as well as the USA Vs Germany ey?

  1. David Mozeshtam
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 10:25 a.m.
    Tim: On another note, I guess this result makes the Mex Vs Brazil match look different now as well as the USA Vs Germany ey? -- No, it doesn't. Doesn't at all mean that USA would beat Brazil or Mexico 6:1.

  1. Daniel Clifton
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 10:38 a.m.
    I agree Tim Gibson. Why is McManawhat's his name even employed by ESPN? Ian Darker should be let go and I am really tired of hearing Lalas. He has nothing original to add. Maybe they should hire Donovan, at least in an interview he was willing to speak his mind about Klinsmann's tactics, whether you agree with him or not.

  1. ROBERT BOND
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 10:44 a.m.
    David, the folks who said the DFB(oh-several provincials here, as well as the TalkSport dudes this AM don't know es meint Deutscher Fussball Bund)ruthless efficiency in 1 goal wins was boring, so are 7-1 routs, tho' ever so less stressful to watch. Still, as Kroos pointed out, we haven't actually won anything yet....we will never see Brasil lose like this again this century, this was a culture changer, the way '02 & '06 was for us.....

  1. Karl Schreiber
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 10:47 a.m.
    Agree re. Ian Darke and have commented here before. Glad y'all agree... BUT: What will happen after Murdoch/Fox takes over for the next World Cup!?

  1. David Mozeshtam
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 10:52 a.m.
    The only problem I have with Ian Darke is his obsession with taking the ball to the corner in the last minutes of every game when a team is leading by a goal. It's an ugly and a rather stupid play that seldom gains anything more than 3-4 seconds of time and deprives the team of a scoring opportunity. Remember one game, I think at WC-10, when he starting screaming about taking the ball to the corner around the 82nd minute. I was wondering if he didn't know the time.

  1. David V
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 11:01 a.m.
    A VICTORY FOR FOOTBALL... the Germans having been chasing the Spanish for 6+ years... lost to them in Euro 2008, knocked out in the semis in 2010WC by the spanish, saw them destroy Italy in the final of Euro 2012, after being knocked out by Italy... When Spain won the Euro2008, and especially WC2010, remember (not that long ago), most of the world had been playing, as Cruyff likes to say "anti-football"... a big brutalizing, defensive affair... the world's game had turned ugly and Spain's WC victory was heralded as a Victory for football... the best team won, with an attacking creative mentality... Brazilian great Tostao, amongst several greats from yesteryear has said that this 2014 cup has been most enjoyable due to that renaissance which the Spanish started...most of the large teams, all at one point or another, said they would follow suit, they would take their queue from Spain, and become more creative, emulate the Spanish style...teams like Italy (good on them the last 4 years), England, the USA, etc, etc, etc., and including England... Germany did follow suit... they got rid of Mike Ballack (remember him stomping all over Xavi's feet during the Euro 2008 final? a Brute, the wrong kind of player, done with...) ... Bastian Schweinsteiger said he would study and emulate Xavi, which he did, the list goes on, and on... all the time, Jogi Low has been a humble man, showing grace in defeat, but working to implement that style, and helping his players to develop and mature... this has become a Germany that I could support and appreciate, not since the days of Kaiser Franz have I enjoyed so much this Germany... Brazil, on the other hand, and for whatever reason (do they not have the players they once had, or is it the less creative, flowing style of football most of their players now play in the English premier league that is part of the demise of what the world came to love about Brazil? or perhaps a bit of both), chose an ugly combative type of football (perhaps like the Dutch against the Spanish in 2010, after Cruyff told van marwijk that they could not beat spain) perhaps Scolari adopted this approach because he knew his team had no chance on the skill level (ANYONE who knows football could see this was a subpar team for years, and the ONLY reason why they were in the conversation about being champions was because of their history and because of the geography of 2014)... This is NOT and has NOT been the Brazil the world fell in love with in the late 50s, 60s, 70s, and the early 80s... Big Phil has been a big Jerk (compare him to Jogi Low and Vicente Del Bosque in both victory and defeat), the fans were vitriolic... what a tale of two countries...what a flip in headlines... "Creative Germans destroy way-over-their-heads Brazilian Thugs!!!" Part 1/2

  1. David V
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 11:01 a.m.
    Good on Germany... the route they took, was good for them, and it is good for football... One can only hope a creative, attacking team wins the Argentina-Holland game... let's hope the Dutch thugs on 2010 with their Kung-Fu kickers remain either on the bench or out of the psyche Take note folks... including the USA... get away from hunker-down-and-hope-to-survive hunker down, brutal football, it lost again, yesterday. Germany's victory yesterday, was a win for world football A VICTORY FOR FOOTBALL Part 2/2 (a footnote would be that Pep Guardiola has helped many of these German players with his philosophy instilled at Bayern Munich-further helping along German national team players playing for Bayern)... the game is about possession, about creativity, about attacking (and yes of course organization too, but NOT organization alone, mixed in with thuggery)

  1. Tim Gibson
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 11:10 a.m.
    David, I never said - "would Have Beat them", but thanks for noticing my comment, Ey?

  1. ROBERT BOND
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 11:14 a.m.
    listen to the bpl commentators for laffs, talk like all WC matches compare to the premiership like u19,watching en Espanol does not detract any more than on mute...

  1. David Whitehouse
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 11:34 a.m.
    Paul Gardner decried the German-American players Jurgen Klinsmann has sought out for the US, saying he should be looking at more Hispanic players. This leads to the question "Should the US be emulating Mexico, which has not gotten out of the Round of 16 in the last six World Cups [unlike the US], or Germany,now in its 7th final?" Of course, the US needs to be itself, but Europe has produced some fine national teams in Spain and now Germany over the last 6 years.

  1. David V
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 11:36 a.m.
    TOO MANY ENGLISH PREMIER COMMENTATORS FOR SURE!!!! for every guy that dribbles on the camera who is from JUVE, or Real Madrid, or Barcelona, or Ajax, or Boca Jrs, or Bayern, or Roma, or you'll hear... "oh that guy was playing at Wimbledon in the 3rd division and oh, there's another guy who shoe shined Sir Alex Ferguson's uncle's step daughter's cousins shoes... have we talked about the tower of london yet, and what about Picadilly square?" They talk about all these English stadia as if they were the maracana or the Bernabeu or Camp Nou or San Siro.... LOL

  1. Haydn Jones
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 11:47 a.m.
    This goes back to the 80s. After the stellar 82 Brazil lost to Italian defending they decided they had to include more defensive minded players. In 1984 England's John Barnes dribbled past several big Brazilian defensive players and Brazil lost a Maracana friendly. The whole country was horrified. When they won on penalties in the 1994 WC many Brazilians complained they did not want to win that way. Still, every Brazil team since then, even 2002, has had too many non flair players. To be true to their style they think they will lose against what they term cynical European football. But merging flair and non flair players, as we can see, is even worse. Solution? Just play your game and hope for the best. At least it will be more entertaining. No amount of clinical team work trumps watching the Ronaldinhos of the world conjure up their magic. And a whole team of Ronaldinhos; Brazil 1970 and 1982 is a thing to behold.

  1. Jeffrey Organ
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 11:59 a.m.
    I have been following the German National team since I was stationed in West Germany with the US Army in the mid-70's. This is the best German side I have ever seen and that is a high bar to exceed. The excellence is even more amazing when you consider that a few of their top players, like Reus, Gundogan and Badstuber, were injured and did not make the trip. Their depth is staggering. I hope MLS and the USMNT continue to learn from whatever secret sauce the Bundesliga and Die Mannschaften have bottled.

  1. Frank Fonte
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 12:02 p.m.
    while none of the commentators metioned it, as i watched the agme unfold, i kept thinking this is spain/barcelona in the guise of the german team. i dont think its a coincidence that pep guardiolo was/is involved with both. hail to pep.

  1. David V
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 12:07 p.m.
    Jeffrey - the secret sauce is well known... ask Jogi and the boys who they emulated to get them on the right track... answer is above in one of my posts... for all, just because a cycle finally came to an end, it doesn't mean it is a cycle of football style that has come to an end, it just means it is a cycle of personnel... that style shall remain... secret sauce is above... And Jeffrey, I bet names like Gerd, and Pierre, and Berti, and Britner all bring back smiles to you :-)

  1. I w Nowozeniuk
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 12:46 p.m.
    Fellas, who would support one commentator!!! There would be less talk, and one could enjoy the sound of the crowd and have the game speak for itself. Max Bretos used to do Argentina games TV commentary alone; he was great; once Fox Soccer paired him, he became tolerable.

  1. David V
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 12:47 p.m.
    PS... Can we trade Juergen for Yogi? LOL

  1. David V
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 12:49 p.m.
    I w nowowzeniuk.... just so long as he is NOT a Brit/EPL worshipper, anything would be better than that

  1. Tim Gibson
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 2:37 p.m.
    @ I w Nowozeniuk; I actually like that idea!...imagine watching the 1st 20 minutes of Brazil Vs Germany with ONLY a play-by-play announcer. Remember how loud the Brazil Supporters were, likely the loudest in WC history for a non-final match. Imagine it W/O McBananaman's constant OVERspeak and being able to better feel the pulse of the game = "almost" like being there after a few brew's! :-)

  1. stewart hayes
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 3 p.m.
    Brazil - 13 shots on frame; 1 goal. Germany - 12 shots on frame; 7 goals. Brazil was went to bed the first half and woke up the second but were unlucky not to score at least several times. Germany is not as strong as it would appear nor Brazil that bad. We've all had games where we could do no wrong. The game was a prime time example.

  1. ROBERT BOND
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 3:39 p.m.
    I w, get direct tv so i can get gol tv to watch the Bundeliga, &, even tho' u hav to get the Spanish package, u can still get the matches in the English version, always only one English guy who still knows real Fussball when he sees it.....

  1. Kent James
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 9:42 p.m.
    Stewart, thanks for the statistics. Efficiency in finishing is what wins at this level, and nothing expresses it better than that. I am glad that Brazil lost so convincingly, because had they won the WC, other teams would have emulated their "success" with overly physical, defensive play. But you're right, everything went right for Germany. On the other hand, I do think the Brazilian players were shell-shocked, and lost it mentally. There was no excuse for their lack of effort in defending (they gave the Germans way too much space, and didn't track worth beans). As for the secret to the success of the Germans, I think this article spills the beans http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-07-08/how-germanys-14-year-soccer-plan-crushed-brazil-in-world-cup (sorry for mutliple bean references...)

  1. Ric Fonseca
    commented on: July 9, 2014 at 9:47 p.m.
    Good posts everyone! The comments re: the Brits doing the "play-by-play" on ABC and ESPN, reminds me of a cartoon strip in the LA Times, "La Cucaracha" in which one panel talks about the Spanish language games broadcasters, full of excitement, crowd noise, etc. and the second panel mentions the ESPN announcers so boring that it seemed as if they were giving the "play by play" of a golf tournament!

  1. Santiago 1314
    commented on: July 10, 2014 at 10:38 a.m.
    Quote from Jurgen Klinsmann in article by Randy Harvey of the Houston Chronicle Sports..7/10/14 pgC1&3….”It makes them feel accountable, not just walk away with a bad performance and nothing happens,” he said. “If you have a bad performance, then people should approach you and tell you that, to make sure that next game is not bad anymore and you step it up.”… The Article is about the National Humiliation that Brazil feels and How (THE USA PLAYERS) don’t have that kind of pressure…***JURGEN*** FIRST, YOU Parked the Bus In-Front of the Goal(Didn’t BELIEVE USA Could Win)… THEN, YOU Re-Arranged the Chairs on the TITANIC(No Sub for Jozy)…and NOW, YOU are Throwing the Players OUT of the Bus, for the Dogs to Eat…<<< THROW YOURSELF OUT >>>…OH, but Knowing you, You will Take a Helicopter Ride Off the Top of the Bus, so you don’t have to face the Wolves…I was for Keeping You, Hoping you would Learn some Humility…But Asking for Fans to Accost the Players and Frighten them into Better Performance!?!?!?…WHAT AN ARROGANT, JERK, PRICK, You are !!!!...What a Hypocrite!!!…YOU Left Germany because YOU couldn’t take the Magnifying Glass that YOU were under and because YOU liked the anonymity that Athletes have in the USA… NOW YOU WANT TO HAVE THE FANS DO YOUR JOB !!!… <<<< Come on SUNIL… Enough is Enough…GET RID OF HIM!!!! >>>> THIS IS AMERICA!!! and WE BELIEVE WE CAN WIN and WE CAN DO IT OUR WAY… so PISS OFF back to Germany…Oh, They don’t want you their either…!!!


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