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Stadium hangup hinders even hottest new soccer market
by Paul Kennedy, August 18th, 2017 4AM
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TAGS:  expansion, fc cincinnati, mls


Of the 12 MLS expansion candidates, none has come farther in a shorter period of time than Cincinnati.

Second-year USL club FC Cincinnati has shattered all attendance records for minor-league soccer -- it is averaging 20,466 fans in 2017 -- and drew three crowds of greater than 30,000 for its home Open Cup games.

But that support won't be enough if it can't come up with a stadium solution. For now, that drops Cincinnati back in the pack with all bidders except Sacramento seeking clarity on the stadium front.

Unprecedented interest. Tuesday's semifinal against the New York Red Bulls drew a sellout crowd of 33,250 fans at Nippert Stadium, the second largest crowd in the history of the Open Cup.

The game was streamed nationally, but a local broadcast on Sinclair Broadcast Group's WSTR-TV (Channel 64) achieved a peak rating of 7.4 at the end of regulation in a match the Red Bulls won, 3-2, in overtime.

Nippert challenges. The problem for FC Cincinnati, which is bidding for an MLS expansion team, is that it is a tenant at Nippert Stadium, owned by the University of Cincinnati and home to the Bearcats' football team.

As recently as late June, FC Cincinnati president and general manager Jeff Berding told WCPO that "the ability to turn Nippert into a soccer-specific stadium is implausible due to some insurmountable challenges."

FC Cincinnati is examining three sites -- located in the West End and Oakley sections of Cincinnati and in Newport, Kentucky -- at which it might build a soccer-specific stadium where it would control such basic things as filed dimensions and field markings and playing dates but most important, all revenue streams.

Anti-soccer stadium activists. Many are calling for MLS and FC Cincinnati to reconsider their stance and make Nippert Stadium the club's permanent home. Its location in Cincinnati's urban core fits the model MLS has found successful in other markets.

But the big reason is that anti-tax groups are pushing for Hamilton County not to negotiate with FC Cincinnati on public funding to help defray the costs of building a new soccer stadium.

Opponents include Todd Portune, the powerful Hamilton County Commission president, and the "No More Stadium Taxes" lobbying group.

Part of the problem is historical. The NFL Bengals' Paul Brown Stadium was heavily subsidized with public money, making it one of the worst public financing deals ever for the construction of a sports facility. Hamilton County is also still paying off Great American Ball Park, home of the baseball Reds.

“While MLS has full control over their admission standards, they have no control over Hamilton County tax dollars," Matt Wahlert, a No More Stadium Taxes board member and North College Hill councilman, told WCPO. "Hamilton County has much bigger needs than subsidizing a new soccer stadium for billionaires, especially when we already have at least one fantastic soccer stadium.”

Solution? Compromising on a soccer stadium is not something that MLS would do lightly for its own interest and that of its current and future owners, who depend on growing their own revenue streams if they are to afford spending more on players, let alone build sustainable business models.

But absent FC Cincinnati majority owner Carl Lindner III footing the entire bill for a soccer stadium, some sort of accommodation with the University of Cincinnati might have to be made if Cincinnati is to move forward.

After all, it wouldn't be without precedence for an MLS expansion team to operate as a tenant. Only one MLS team doesn't play in or plan to move into a stadium in which it has some sort of ownership interest, but that happens be the Seattle Sounders, who have led MLS in attendance in each of their first eight seasons in the league.

  1. David Trapp
    commented on: August 18, 2017 at 8:31 a.m.
    My hometown is Cincinnati and I would love to see them with an MLS team. Having presented Lamar Hunt with a financing option before the very first stadium was built in Columbus; I understand the stadium logistics better than most; what I hope is that a solution can be found. I know most Cincinnati residents really resent the fact that they had to pay for the football and baseball stadiums.
  1. Nick Daverese
    commented on: August 18, 2017 at 11:14 p.m.
    David hasn't Ohio always been where kids played our football. I saw an old movie once staring Spenser Tracy and he went to a local park and I saw kids playing our football. When I first saw the movie I was surprised to see kids playing there back then.
  1. Red Bulls Fan
    commented on: August 18, 2017 at 10:57 a.m.
    I think it is crazy for MLS not to accept FC Cincinatti ASAP. They can look to a new stadium in the future.... They allowed it for NYCFC so why not here? I think Nippert Stadium is perfectly situated in Cincinatti and its a nice soccer venue that's definitely better than what many existing teams have (Better than Revs, NYCFC, DC United, Chicago, Minnesota, and probably others).
  1. Paul Berry
    commented on: August 18, 2017 at 12:24 p.m.
    DC United and Minnesota are in the process of building soccer specific stadiums. Chicago's problem is the location.
  1. Paul Berry
    commented on: August 18, 2017 at 12:29 p.m.
    "Only one MLS team doesn't play in or plan to move into a stadium in which it has some sort of ownership interest.." What about Portland and Vancouver?
  1. Paul Cox
    commented on: August 20, 2017 at 5:15 p.m.
    Portland essentially has complete control over their stadium. Vancouver doesn't have quite that much power, but still has a very good stadium deal (so much so that they've indefinitely shelved their SSS project).
  1. schultz rockne
    commented on: August 18, 2017 at 8:34 p.m.
    Of course the crowds look great at UC--centrally located, accessible...and when they decide on that stadium south of the river, a la the local airport...hello Miami Fusion attendance numbers.
  1. R2 Dad
    commented on: August 18, 2017 at 10:51 p.m.
    This just sounds like a cash flow issue. Maybe Garber can accept $20M per year for 20 years instead of that $150M upfront, allowing Cincy to afford a new stadium? It sounds like good business all around. The attendance numbers should drive this decision, not Garber's need for cash.
  1. Paul Cox
    commented on: August 20, 2017 at 5:16 p.m.
    Carl Lindner III is estimated to be worth over 2 billion dollars. ($2,000,000,000). He could finance the stadium with change he digs out of his couch cushions.

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