USA-Mexico Concacaf Cup Player Ratings

The USA rallied twice from one-goal deficits but ultimately was defeated by Mexico, 3-2, late in extra time at the Rose Bowl Saturday night in the Concacaf Cup. Geoff Cameron scored his second U.S. goal and led a spirited effort that fell short against a classier, more effective opponent. Bobby Wood rekindled his magic off the bench to hit the second equalizer in extra time only for Paul Aguilar to cap off a tremendous performance by scoring the late winner.

USA-MEXICO EXPRESS:
Oct. 10 in Pasadena, California
USA 2 Mexico 3 (OT). Goals: Cameron 15, Wood 108; Hernandez 10, Peralta 96, Aguilar 118.
Att.: 93,723.

USA Player Ratings
Starters:
5 Brad Guzan (Aston Villa/ENG), 40/0.
Very sure-handed smothering low shots. Stoned Oribe Peralta in the first extra period. Left marooned on all three goals. Commanded the box well.

4 Fabian Johnson (Borussia Moenchengladbach/GER), 40/1.
A good first half disintegrated as the U.S. lost its foothold. Failed to contain Miguel Layun on several occasions and was slow to secure his flank on crosses hit from the opposite side.

6 Geoff Cameron (Stoke City/ENG), 33/2.
Stepped into midfield and stranded himself on first Mexico goal. Consistently thwarted opposing attacks with strong headers and well-timed tackles. Planted a header into the top corner for his second international goal. Nice pass in extra time found Wood in a good spot.

5 Matt Besler (Sporting Kansas City), 27/0.
Vital header stopped Mexico in stoppage time and seconds later ball came off his arm but no PK was called. Came up big with tackles in several crucial situations, but lost track of Javier Hernandez when the Mexican striker side-footed wide from point-blank range.

3 DaMarcus Beasley (Houston Dynamo), 123/17.
Breached when Mexico came down his flank to score its second goal and left a huge hole by charging forward to challenge in the final minutes. Labored to contain Layun and an array of attackers Mexico sent his way. Got loose down the left side late in the first half to cut back a low ball that the keeper smothered.

4 Gyasi Zardes (Los Angeles Galaxy), 16/2.
He spent so much time and energy defending he didn’t often penetrate the final third. Yet he often fronted Layun and stopped him a few times.

4 Kyle Beckerman (Real Salt Lake), 51/1.
Neat and tidy work helped U.S. keep possession and establish tempo in first half. Overrun often in the second half and seldom found teammates with his passes. Too late to pressure Jimenez when he played ball wide that led to second Mexican goal.

6 Michael Bradley (Toronto FC), 107/15.
Dragged a left-footed shot wide when played in by Dempsey, blasted another shot over the bar. Lofted a great free kick that Cameron put away. Good work plugging the middle in the first half, not as solid after that. Took a caution for tripping Hernandez after poor giveaway in the middle third.

4 Jermaine Jones (New England Revolution), 52/3.
As usual, gave a heroic effort that included a couple of reckless fouls. Fell asleep in first extra period when Paul Aguilar snuck behind him to set up Oribe Peralta’s go-ahead goal, but got a second wind and picked up his level. In the closing minutes, he played a good ball into the box.

4 Clint Dempsey (Seattle Sounders), 120/48.
Quiet in the first half except for nice ball that played in Bradley. Nearly forced his way through a cluster of players in the second half but couldn’t get a shot away. Played in Bradley again in the final minutes with a ball that yielded a free kick.

3 Jozy Altidore (Toronto FC), 86/29.
Won a few duels and free kicks, layoff passes were okay. Killed a possible counter in extra time by scuffing his crossfield pass and disappeared before being substituted.

Substitutes:
6 DeAndre Yedlin (Sunderland/ENG), 26/0.
Struggled with pace upon entry, two missed tackles could have been costly but in addition to winning a free kick in extra time he pushed a perfect ball for Wood to stick into the net.

7 Bobby Wood (Union Berlin/GER), 11/3.
Took Altidore’s forward spot in the first extra period and after a few shaky moments latched onto a ball from Yedlin to equalize sharply in the 108th minute.

NR Brad Evans (Seattle Sounders) 24/1/.
Out-dueled two opponents in final minutes near his own corner flag and forced a goal kick.

TRIVIA. The loss ended the USA's longest unbeaten streak in its series against Mexico. It was undefeated in six games against El Tri under Jurgen Klinsmann. The last defeat was a 4-2 loss to Mexico in the 2011 Gold Cup final, also at the Rose Bowl.

Oct. 10 in Pasadena, California
USA 2 Mexico 3 (OT). Goals: Cameron 15, Wood 108; Hernandez 10, Peralta 96, Aguilar 118.
USA -- Guzan; Johnson (Evans 111), Cameron, Besler, Beasley; Jones, Beckerman, Bradley, Zardes (Yedlin 78); Dempsey, Altidore (Wood, 98).
Mexico -- Munoz, Reyes, Layun, Aguilar, Moreno; Marquez (Rivas, 76), Herrera, Guardado (Guemez, 80); Peralta, Jimenez, Hernandez (Corona, 97).
Referee: Joel Aguilar (El Salvador).
Att.: 93,723.
46 comments about "USA-Mexico Concacaf Cup Player Ratings".
  1. Mark Headley, October 11, 2015 at 4:33 a.m.

    Did our team not look overtrained from the get-go? Was a US men's team ever slower to close down on the ball? Or lack so much sharpness against Mexico playing in the US this millenium? This after Landon presciently, incisively, futilely remarked this week that every time he had success against Mexico, the team pressed Mexico out of its comfort zone. Tactical insight -- timely articulated days ago. Precisely what players have said Klinsmann fails to provide, Of course, the US Team also featured Landon Donovan playing in those matches. As Lalas commented, if we don't keep possession, we need the speed to threaten fierce counterattacks. I would add energy, vision, cordination. Has a US men's team ever looked less coordinated? Does this not also betray poor (tactical) coaching? Will we ever learn who kept Jürgen Klinsmann's book and the 2013 Sporting News article secret from from Sunil Gulati?

  2. Mark Headley replied, October 11, 2015 at 4:44 a.m.

    http://www.sportingnews.com/…/german-star-philipp-lahm-blas…

    http://www.sportingnews.com/soccer/story/2013-03-19/jurgen-klinsmann-us-mens-soccer-coach-national-team-usa-american-world-cup-2013

  3. Alfrick Hunt, October 11, 2015 at 6:01 a.m.

    Smh guys I'm confuse about this drama as a whole..what does USA expect from their athletes..if not the best then what..why do we play,watch...we need to adapt the philosophy of needing to win whenever we step on that field as a soccer nation..how can we get better if our philosophy is under a coach that speaks about players accountability and not about him putting in a system where players can be comfortable and want to work hard for the team..coach needs to fired when big results don't come ..after all this USA a nation built on hard work and different ethnic cultures..USA coach from what I've seen doesn't know anything tactically he gave up the wings to Mexico but as a coach u shud know that if u want to beat Mexico u cannot give them access to the wings because USA defence is not great defending crosses and Mexico lives on crosses..USA coach tried to adjust but the team was already tired...he needs to go if not then fire whomever that's keeping him there cause big results matter that's y we play friendlies for the big games...that's why European and south American teams are up there cause their nation demand the best from their players ,coach and staff hence USA coach looks like he doesn't know how to get the best out of his players...coaches instill confidence in players so they themselves gives a 100% for the team,country,team mates and fans and trust me that confidence that is instilled in the players will show accountability on and off the field...and anyone that thinks USA does not have skilled players doesn't know soccer....CONFIDENCE IS THE KEY TO EVERY ATHLETE SUCCESS

  4. Santiago 1314, October 11, 2015 at 8:24 a.m.

    “UnEducated” Klinsmann was Out Coached… Never was able to figure out how to Cover a 3-5-2…I kept telling all of you that We would struggle against a 3-5-2…Poor Jones and Beasley, ….Left to Flounder out there, Neither one knew who was supposed to cover Aguilar ….The way you counter a 3-5-2, is to play 3-5-2… “UnEducated” Player Selection; If Bedoya doesn’t get sick WOOD wasn’t even Picked… “UnEducated” cause he didn’t learn from Last Year World Cup…Parking THE BUS is NOT Necessary…Every time Yedlin is on the Field with Bradley and Dempsey we score Goals…Instead we get the “UnEducated” Double Holding Midfielders…Jones and Peckerhair, Should not be on the Field at the same time… Jurgen Klinsmann; “UnEducated” and should be “UnEmployed”

  5. Dan Eckert, October 11, 2015 at 8:50 a.m.

    JK should be a politician. He has a great ability to smile when he's lying, he hasn't kept his promises, he has an artful ability to deflect blame, he's VERY ambitious, and in the real world - he's all talk - and no do.

    Wow - I just realized - if he was corrupt too - he shouldn't be a politician - he should run for FIFA President.

  6. Santiago 1314, October 11, 2015 at 9:15 a.m.

    Ridge; I think you meant Aguilar on the Beasley Rating...Layun was on the other side...Zardes did a excellent job of Shutting Layun down,,,

  7. Kent James, October 11, 2015 at 9:55 a.m.

    Mexico had huge amounts of possession, most of it harmless. I don't know if JK wanted to US to concede possession and counter, but I understand other teams have successfully done this to Mexico, and we did have some opportunities to counter. But, and Lalas pointed out (and should be obvious to anyone with a soccer brain), if you are relying on a counter, you need to have speed. A counter-attack strategy led by Jozy and Dempsey?? Never going to happen. So if that was the plan, JK had the wrong personnel.

  8. Kent James, October 11, 2015 at 10 a.m.

    As for the ratings, I thought Jozy did more than Dempsey; I think Dempsey touched the ball 4 times all game, and no player played less defense than Dempsey. Beasely and Johnson were under pressure all game (as were Cameron and Besler), and while Beasely did make a mistake on the third goal, it as an aggressive attempt to start a counter when the US had momentum. And of course, had Jones not committed that lazy foul (exhausted would be more fair), Mexico would never have had the free kick the led to Beasley's miscalculation.

  9. Stuart d. Warner, October 11, 2015 at 10:04 a.m.

    Jermaine Jones, the almost 34 year old Jermaine Jones, playing left mid. Left mid. What skills can he bring to that position? Actually, none, which is why defensively he was out of position for Mexico's last two goals, and offensively gave us less than zero width (who would have thought that possible?) and not a single cross into the box. Clint Dempsey, the 32 year old Clint Dempsey, was invisible, and the few times he had the ball, he did nothing. Demarcus Beasley, the 33 year old Demarcus Beasley, was constantly caught out of position. Brad Guzan--good keeper, but if tomorrow he joined a big club and simultaneously Tim Howard joined the same club, and they were the only two keepers, who would start? If there any question it would be Howard? None!!! The coach chooses the lineup; the coach chooses the tactics; the coach prepares the players to play the game. And in JK's case, he is charged with being the US Technical Director; he runs the entire program. We actually have some good young players. But where are they? Why wasn't the team rebuilt after Brazil building around Bradley and Howard, our only two world class players? In a certain way, our games against Germany and the Netherlands made use of younger players, and we had decent success. We do have players we pace and the importance of that was shown by our only goal in the run of play. If Jermaine Jones sees the field again--yes, he's brave; yes, he competes; yes, he may be a great teammate; but he is not the future--if Kyle Beckerman sees the field again . . . then we are not preparing properly for Russia. And where in the world was Mix?

  10. Paul Bryant replied, October 11, 2015 at 5:19 p.m.

    Stuart, thank you for bringing up the point about GK,s. Guzman is a good backup, but Howard is the best American keeper in the world. By not starting Howard, he puts the USMNT at a disadvantage by about 1 goal per game.

  11. Santiago 1314 replied, October 11, 2015 at 8:11 p.m.

    Guzman did well...But, Guzman is a SHOT STOPPER...HOWARD is a GAME SAVER.!!!...You can't put a Number or Statistic on it...It is what IT IS...You Know It...The Opponent knows it...It changes the shot that Opponents take; like maybe that first shot from Chichirito...Maybe Aguilar decides to NOT SHOOT, Because he knows he can't beat Howard from that angle...But, Maybe Señor, I can Beat Guzman...That's is the Difference between the twp

  12. beautiful game, October 11, 2015 at 11:23 a.m.

    That's right, coach K failed again, and the team performance was as mediocre as it gets. Our tactics were too defensive, our technical skills are not up to par, and the basic soccer IQ is limited. The Tri was the better squad on the day. They played solid for 80 minutes to our 10 minutes. Off the ball movement was rare and was executed once by Wood, while most of the game the pass was first and the run was second in critical moments. Possession was limited and we were chasing the game, not dictating. IMHO,Bradley getting a 6-rating was overly generous, he squandered several solid chances and gave the ball away too often.

  13. Santiago 1314 replied, October 11, 2015 at 1:20 p.m.

    Very Correct analysis

  14. Kent James replied, October 11, 2015 at 5:34 p.m.

    While you're right that Bradley did mishit a few good chances, at least he created them. There wasn't much else going on offensively (I think Jozy had two shots, I'm pretty sure Dempsey had none).

  15. cisco martinez, October 11, 2015 at 11:38 a.m.

    Fire klinsmann! Anyone with a soccer IQ know if you don't have the ball as much USA did against Mexico it's tough to defend, counter with pace, and all you do is chase. Tactically Mexico did a great job going with a 4-3-3 and klinsmanns 4-4-2 diamond went to a flat four in the middle, which pushed our outside midfielders in a defensive shell. The rest is history, klinsmanns inability to get results and our u-23 losing to Honduras at home is unacceptable, these loses are becoming a trend and U.S. Soccer will not be successful if klinsmann is in charge.

  16. Santiago 1314 replied, October 11, 2015 at 1:26 p.m.

    Mexico started with TWO in the back...Rafa was Playing IN FRONT of the 2 Central Defenders until they scored, then he became the 3rd Back.(SWEEPER)...Do you consider Layun and Aguilar as Fullbacks.???...I don't think either one plays there for their Clubs or Country... so Who were the 4 defenders, in Mexico 4-4-3.???...Mexico was 3-5-2

  17. cisco martinez, October 11, 2015 at 2:37 p.m.

    Mexico started with a 4-3-3, after they scored Rafa dropped into a 3-4-3 at times which tactically left klinsmann going from a 4-4-2 diamond to a flat four in the midfield. USA didn't know what to do. Mexicos pressure put USA into a defensive shell and tactically and technically Mexico was dominant.

  18. Santiago 1314 replied, October 11, 2015 at 7:37 p.m.

    Cisco, Name me those FOUR Defenders that they started with in the Back. .???

  19. Santiago 1314 replied, October 11, 2015 at 7:42 p.m.

    Your only saying that started in a 4-3-3, Because that is what the announcers told you. .. a Chess move by Tuco...Out Foxed most of you...Not me...I rewatched the Mex-Argentina game from Dallas...Same Formation...How did JK NOT KNOW THEIR Formation...

  20. Bob Ashpole replied, October 13, 2015 at 12:53 p.m.

    Santiago 1314 I think you are being too critical regarding his description of what he saw. I think he saw the adjustment that came after the first goal. Although I know Mexico favors a 352, I too have described Mexico as starting in a 433, but not because the TV said so. I pretty much ignore the English-language broadcast commentators and sometimes turn the sound off completely. I called it a 433 because initially they had 3 forwards spread high and wide, supported by 3 CMs. I don't care where the other four players are. To me that is a classic 433 attack. After the first goal, the 3rd forward withdrew and I saw the 352. I don't think you are wrong saying they were always in a 352 (meaning that they were just playing very aggressively until the first goal). Indeed your view is better since it is the simplest explanation. But my point is we saw the adjustments too, we are just describing it differently. What your comment amounts to, essentially, is some coaching education for us.

  21. Santiago 1314 replied, October 14, 2015 at 9:34 p.m.

    Bob, always glad to add a little insight...My Point was just that if "You" state that Mexico started in a 4 Flat Defense, I am willing to "eat my words"..If "you guys" can name the 2 Outside and 2 Inside Backs they "Started" with; Unfortunately our "Coach" Couldn't Figure it out either AND THAT'S WHAT HE GETS PAID MILLIONS FOR...No Biggie, I enjoy reading your comments and We are not always Going to agree on "Things"

  22. Ric Fonseca, October 11, 2015 at 3:18 p.m.

    Wowsers folks! The number of anti-JKers grows. But I must say that the times I've seen Mexico play us or anyone else, they seem to ALWAYS have a player or two playing wide, and yet only on a few occasions did our outside FB's caught on! Time and again Mexico played the ball out wide and time and again they crossed the ball in front of our PA! Now someone on some other comments put it succinctly, that the coach can only do so much during prep time, and it is up to the players on the field to execute the game plan and act accordingly and react defensively. As for the ratings, Mr. Mahoney gave three 6's, Cameron, Bradley and Yedlin! Bradley a six??!!?? He again showed an unbelievable incapacity to chase down the opponent, (as did Dempsey and Altidore) and in fact if memory serves me well, wasn't it Bradley who gave a half-arsed pass that was intercepted and resulted in a goal??? As for Yedlin also getting a 6 after playing a part of the game... Come on now, Mr. Mahoney. There is helluva lot yet to be said on last night's US performance, but one thing for sure, folks, a cook can't make a good chicken salad with chicken .... Play on!!!

  23. Santiago 1314 replied, October 11, 2015 at 8:03 p.m.

    You have a Good Point...What was the Pre-Game instructions to the players...Sunil should have a Independent Group Talk with JK and the Players to see if it was JK "UnEducated" or the players that were NOT Following his instructions. ..I know what side I would back..

  24. Zoe Willet, October 11, 2015 at 4:29 p.m.

    I think you are dead wrong about Beasley. He deserves 6 all day long ! HE and Guzan, maybe the 2 oldest, played with the most spun and enthusiasm!

  25. Paul Bryant replied, October 11, 2015 at 5:25 p.m.

    I didn't have too much of a problem with Beasley, but Guzan should be relegated to the bench in favor of Howard. He hurt us in the Gold Cup, and didn't come up with the big save in the Mexico game.

  26. Kent James replied, October 11, 2015 at 5:41 p.m.

    Yeah, I like Beasley too. He was one of our few threats going forward, and rarely got beaten (though they were certainly sending a lot his way). And his error that contributed to the 3rd goal (his attempt to head the ball away from the Mexican player flicking it up) was the kind of error to make (going for it), if you're going to make errors (and you are). Howard might have done better on the first goal (but it certainly wasn't keeper error that created that goal), but I don't think any keeper is stopping that 3rd goal; just too powerful from too close.

  27. Greg Giese, October 11, 2015 at 6:52 p.m.

    Bradley a 6.....maybe if you don't consider the BLOWN weiney kicks other wise known as shots on goal. Time for Mix!he converts on any of those gimmes and we win in regulation and we are all taking about how JK is a genius. Gimme a break. We could use a talent infusion and sorry but MLS is there to make money NOT develop players. Lost the MLS altruism they could care less about usmnt being successful.

  28. Lou vulovich, October 12, 2015 at 2:54 a.m.

    For those people criticizing Dempsey, sorry but it really shows how very little you know about the game, Dempsey was the only US player who could hold the ball under any pressure. The real problem was the US inability to get him the ball more. When did the US team suddenly turn into a defensive over. 30 team. What would be the point of winning this game with this team and this style, is that the future. Where is the transition for 2018.
    The only young player starting is Zardes whose only real attribute is hard work. The only quality players are Bradly, Cameron, Dempsey and Beadler. The rest of the teams is second rate. Yedlin has potential but must be given a starting spot now. Where are the rest of the young or younger USA players. Zusi, Filhalber, Diskelrud,
    Johanson. ETC. 2018 is. 3 years away what are you going to play with a 35 and over team.

  29. Santiago 1314 replied, October 12, 2015 at 7:27 a.m.

    Pretty Good Analysis...I don't think in a "One Off" Game, you worry about the age of the players...But when you take a 34 Year old DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER and ask him to Cover a Wing Back; You have to look at the Coaches Ability

  30. Kent James replied, October 13, 2015 at 1:59 p.m.

    Do you think Dempsey's play was beyond criticism? You hate to take Dempsey off because he's always capable of a little magic, but there was none of that in the game Sat. And while Mexico was pinging the ball around, he played only token defense. If you don't have a chance to get the ball, I get you don't need to go hard, because it will waste energy. But there were times when the US could've gotten the ball back if Dempsey had joined the rest of the team in exerting some pressure on the Mexican defenders. Defense should not be the first criteria for a forward, but if you don't have the ball, somehow you have to get it, or you're useless. And that was Dempsey v. Mexico.

  31. Nancy Jones, October 12, 2015 at 9:33 a.m.

    Have agreed for a long time that JK is all ego! How would you like to play for him? How could you respect him? After 4 years of I made the team, no - I didn't. I'm back on,no off, no on! Playing what position??? Who made the roster this time? - Seriously. Our men deserve better! Our country deserves better. Get rid of Gulati and JK will be gone.

  32. johnny c, October 12, 2015 at 11:51 a.m.

    I will repeat my experience:
    Yesterday I went to see a U12 team in a predominantly Latino area. The kids wore a USA national team knock off uniform and were playing in a local league that cost $35 dollars a season. I saw 11 INCREDIBLE American players. US Soccer Federation, where are you??? We need to scout and find these kids, we need to completely revamp our entire administration!

  33. Andy Cap replied, October 12, 2015 at 2:22 p.m.

    jk

  34. Lou vulovich, October 12, 2015 at 1:29 p.m.

    ECC. Whose job is it to change the youth system if it is not Klinsmann and his assistant Ramos.
    Who should hold the US scouts accountable for bringing the players in and hold the coaches responsible for the youth performances.
    I have defended Klinsmann for years but that should be part of his job.
    We have a residency where our players train together all year then we play hand selected competition usually one or two years younger then our boys look great beating a younger team not prepared for the games. That is why we get beat 8-1 and can't score against Jamaica.
    No one is held accountable.
    Does it mean that if the USA had not scrimmaged Stanford, Jordan Morris would not have played on the men's NT.
    Who heads up the USA youth and Men's scouting and who holds those scouts and coaches responsible.
    How many times have you read that a good player has been dropped from the squad due to him not getting enough minutes with his club team, only to see another player starting who does not even have a team. So who is in charge and who is to blame.?
    Klinsmann was not hired to win the World Cup,
    let's be realistic. He was hired to change the level of play and to put more Jordan Morris and Yedlin's
    out on the field and they exist and are in this country it's just that no one in charge really cares.

  35. James Froehlich, October 12, 2015 at 4:51 p.m.

    One question for all of you wizards. How can any team, in any formation be successful when they cannot string more than two successive passes together? I know that we are all privileged to have many World Class coaches on this blog but where does the failure of the players to execute factor into your grand scheme of things? It is quite normal for the coach's head to be requested when a team doesn't perform, it's easier than firing the whole team! However the USMNT is in a unique situation. Soccer in the US is still, even after 100 years is still a new sport for the great majority of sports fans. Unfortunately for most of that time we have been under the influence of one of the poorest examples of entertaining soccer, the English FA. Our coaching and development has been dominated by them. Today the ENGLISH PREMIER LEAGUE is English in name only. It's best players and coaches are from elsewhere. Lacking a creative and skillful example our coaching and development organizations, the US emulated England and we now have an entrenched coaching fraternity that knows no other way. When some talented coaches were able to rise to the top, they always remembered where they came from and who their friends were. Consequently when Arena and Bradley became MNT coaches and had access to the potentially "bully pulpit" they chose to say nothing lest their friends become upset. That is why it finally became necessary to get an outsider like Klinsmann to shake things up. For that reason I will always be a Klinsmann supporter. He has called out our "professionals" who lack the guts to ply their trade against the world's best. He has accused them of not being in condition when coming into camp. He has criticized the professionalism and desire to improve. All this takes me back to the Vince Lombardi era in that other football. No coddling! If your feelings are hurt, good-by! Instead of supporting a tougher approach to our professionals, the fans get upset that "their little boys" aren't being treated properly.

  36. Santiago 1314 replied, October 12, 2015 at 10:16 p.m.

    Webster's Definition of "Coddling"= Klinsmann-Jozy

  37. Lou vulovich, October 12, 2015 at 5:52 p.m.

    James, I am not advocating for Klinsmann's dismissal. But he defiantly has not shaken things up and he has coddled more then any other coach the US has had. It is 100% true that the US team had trouble stringing passes together, but that is his selection and his style of play. That is the coaches responsibility if choses a team to defend and hit on the counterattack it is his failure when the loose and look bad in the process. He was not hired to win Concacaf, we were winning that before he showed up. He was hired to revolutionize soccer in this country, bring in the young players, beautiful football, that is what people were giving him credit for doing with Germany 2006. None of those things have happened, he seems to only be preoccupied with winning. My criticism is not because we are loosing meaningless games, it's because we are technically not even at the level we were 5 years ago and the future does not look any better.
    The real way to call players on their professionalism is to bring other players in and not invite them back. The USNMT is a lifelong guarantee once you play for the U15. Regardless of performance or style. Klinsmann has done nothing to change that.

  38. James Froehlich, October 12, 2015 at 10:02 p.m.

    Lou V -- it's obviously time to discuss exactly what power/authority JK has. Can he hire/ fire the existing US soccer scouts? Does he have any authority over that part of the organization? Can he change the rules for USSoccer sanctioned games? (For example the revisions to U6 -- U12 games that mandate small sided games starting in 2017). Can he mandate any changes to college soccer? Is he in charge of the development academies? Answers to these questions would help to define what exactly he can shake up?
    Now to the make-up of the various MNT's. How much input does he have into the players selected? Regarding their training, it is my understanding that he wants a possession style game taught at all levels. Other than selecting the coaches, what input does he have -- I don't know. Finally, the make-up of the senior MNT. The current player pool is much larger than in the past but, just as in the past, there is really no one being touted as sure-fire world class. Hyndman, Carter-Vickers, Yedlin, Woods, Zelalem, etc. where else should JK be looking for talent. Over the past 4years we have BEGUN tap into the Hispanic pool but when this is noted, a chorus arises saying that we shouldn't pinpoint a certain ethnic background. Regarding selection of specific game rosters, JK can't win here because if his fresh selection bombs out once the boo-birds are in full cry. If because of the lack of options for a specific type of player, a target man, he is forced to play his only option, Altidore, he is again pilloried. Who among the forward/striker options has performed consistently? No one
    Soooooo, from now on if anyone wants JK to shake things up, please state what he should do and whether he actually has the authority. Also, when complaining about the roster selections, please make sure you know who is injured andwho isn't being released by his team. Also, please provide reasonable evidence that your selection will perform. So far none of the player pool has performed consistently enough to warrant consistent selection. And that is the problem!

  39. Santiago 1314 replied, October 12, 2015 at 10:26 p.m.

    I'll put my Money where my Mouth is and State how JK should have Lined the Team up versus Mexico..I would make The Team BETTER by Scoring 1 more Goal a Game and Giving up One Less Goal a Game...That means we beat Mexico 3-2...I would have Countered Their 3-5-2, with a 3-5-2...Then you have Even Numbers and Width in the Midfield.... HOWARD>(Probably Saves 1 Miraculous Goal)...《3 Defense》 2 center back...GONZO-BESLER>> CAMERON as LIBERO (just like Mexico did with Rafa)>>《5midfielders》...Jones(Holding)..Johnson Left Wing Back..Bradley (Cent,)...Yedlin (Rt Wing Back)..Dempsey (Attack Mid)...《2 Forwads》Wood and Zardes...High Pressure...If we steal ball in their Half or Third, it's only One or Two passes to goal..Even we can do that..Look at Yedlin-Wood Goal...Press Mexico...They have Played Tiki-Taka since Cuellar, INEFFECTIVELY, Break up their Rhythm and they Disintegrate into Petty Bickering and Fouling...JK figured that out when they played 4-4-2 against us...He just couldn't figure out how to Stop a 3-5-2..."Out Coached"...

  40. Santiago 1314 replied, October 13, 2015 at 11:57 a.m.

    USA Team get Worn Out.!!?? Versus Mexico???..Not if you make them Run...If you lay back and Chase the Ball all day, You get More Tired, then if you go Head to Head...Mano-a-Mano... We have Beaten or Tied them in the Last 6games by doing that...JK couldn't figure out the Match-Ups versus a 3-5-2...I think our Soccer Atheletes are as Good or Darn Close enough to ANY Soccer Atheletes in the World...Skill and Tactical Awareness are what's Lacking

  41. Bob Ashpole replied, October 13, 2015 at 1:11 p.m.

    The 352 is specifically intended to counter a 442. It spreads the opponent creating more space in the center and has a 3v2 advantage in the central midfield. This was an innovation in 1980s, but old tactics now. Santiago's suggestion of countering with a 352 is interesting and a more common 451 would work too. JK's "solution" to place Jones out on the wing rates an F! I have only followed the MNT since 1989. I am sure that every prior MNT coach since then had a better solution than that. Why did JK not counter the 352 using the same successful tactics of the recent matches? I have no idea of what he could have been thinking.

  42. Bob Ashpole replied, October 13, 2015 at 1:22 p.m.

    The only dumber solution would be to move the keeper out on the flank.

  43. Santiago 1314 replied, October 15, 2015 at 6:01 p.m.

    JK couldn't Counter "Coach" Because he is NOT a Coach...To Paraphrase/Quote Churchill..He "Is a Riddle, Wrapped in a Mystery, Inside an Enigma"...And he has LOST the Locker Room...Lost the Fans...Lost the Media...Worn Out his Welcome...And Needs to figure out a "Golden Parachute" with Sunil... It is the Epitome of Arrogance to Not Gracefully Resign for the Betterment of the Team and Country...

  44. Lou vulovich, October 13, 2015 at 12:07 a.m.

    James. If I understand you correctly Klinsmann has no authority nor any responsibility for anything that goes on from the youth set up all the way to the MNT he just plays with the cards he is dealt with and does his best. I disagree with you he has tremendous power as to the hiring and selection of all national teams. He has another 30 players who could and should get a look. Are you saying the team the other night against Mexico was our best selection. Half the team was over 32. What about the U23-U20-U19 -U17 EtC, what do you mean where are they going to find other players this is a country of 300 million it's their job to find other players. Are you on board with no one taking responsibility from top down. Keep going for another 3-4 years and that buys the whole group 8 years of accomplishing nothing except large pay checks. Then the next group will come in and state how they need time and we are relatively new to soccer, and they will destroy more generations of young soccer players.
    Counting on naive American soccer fans just waiting for the day when something happens to change soccer. So according to you Gulatti, Klinsmann get a break because we just need another 100 years to develop. While they collect
    5 Million a year. Seriously James if Klinsmann is not to blame for anything after four years. Who is let me in on it please.

  45. Lou vulovich, October 13, 2015 at 1:39 a.m.

    I am not a Klinsmann hater nor do I have any opinion about his son. I just don't see any improvement in soccer from youth to MNT period.
    The only noticeable improvement has been with the MLS. All other areas from youth to college to MNT are staggered or going backwards. Just got done watching two top college teams play. Maybe
    6 division in Europe.

  46. Lou vulovich, October 13, 2015 at 1:18 p.m.

    ECC. Agree 100%

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