Thumbs up after first video replays
- by Ridge Mahoney @ridgemax, Aug 15, 2016
The first usage of video replay in a domestic competitive pro game took place Friday night at Red Bull Arena, the same venue where a test run was held using youth teams earlier this month.
Allen Chapman served as Video Assistant Referee during a Red Bulls
II-Orlando City B match officiated by Ismail Elfath.
The pair were communicating throughout the match to discuss situations and incidents. Elfath chose to use the replay system
twice and both incidents were quickly reviewed. Representatives from the International Football Association Board (IFAB) were in attendance to observe the test, which went smoothly.
“Everyone was very pleased with the process, including IFAB,” said USL operations senior director Brett Luy, who was also present. “We all felt it accomplished its intended
purpose -- to correct match-changing incidents.”
The first review involved a foul by Orlando City defender Conor Donovan on Red Bulls II forward Junior Flemmings that
was committed near the edge of the penalty area. Elfath initially ruled the foul occurred outside the penalty area but after a review of just 24 seconds, he changed his decision to a penalty kick and
issued a red card to Donovan for denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity.
Elfath also reviewed a foul by Kyle McFadden of Orlando City on Florian Valot to determine its
severity. The review took less than a minute and resulted in Elfath cautioning McFadden.
Elfath whistled a penalty kick when Orlando City defender Antonio Matarazzo handled the
ball while sliding to block it but elected not to review it.
“Overall, I think it went pretty well,” said Red Bulls II head coach John Wolyniec, who might have been
somewhat biased. His team won, 5-1.
“Obviously, there was a change in the calls," he added, "but I don’t think it slowed the game down in too many respects."
So most of the times it will mean a booking for the player who fouled. Doesn't it have to be intentional to get a red?
They keep trying to copy our sports I might have to go back watch our sports instead of watch the best sport.
Doesn't this encourage time wasting so the official has more time to think about calling a replay.
Hey they can use this time to run commercials just like in collision our football.
The LOTG distinguish between "intent", and "deliberate".
Deliberate is an observable action. The referee can make a decision based on what's seen.
Intent is in the mind of the player, and is indeterminate, and thus should not be considered.
btw, along those lines there was a study done recently looking at the affect of watching a crime in slow motion.
A jury was 60% more likely to say an action was intentional when they viewed it in slow motion.
Just thought of this does this end a quick restart by the attacking team right after the foul.
We used to practice quick restarts to try to attack after the defending relaxes after they foul. Is that tactic out the window now?
If play is stopped with a whistle. and a booking is to be made, a quick restart is not allowed as the booking must be completed before play resumes.
If the referee elects to apply advantage on a bookable offense, then the booking must be completed on the next stoppage of play, and before play resumes.
The same principle should apply to replay.
Yes and no. If the video replay is used mostly to determine whether to award a red or yellow card or whether to award a penalty kick or award a restart outside the box, then a quick restart would not be available regardless. The video replay, if used reasonably, will simply be an extension of the current practice of occasionally consulting with assistants prior to restarting play. Radio transmitters have made consultations quick and easy.
Only on those that are reviewed.
Not sure why the referee needed to see the video to determine if he should issue a red card, since there didn't seem to be a question as to whether or not a foul occurred (and it was clearly denying a goal scoring opportunity), only whether or not it was inside the box (and for that, I think the video review was warranted). I'm glad they're using it. Better to add 30 seconds and get the call right.
Kent, My thought exactly. Changing the location of the ball (free kick to penalty) should have no impact on the "actual" foul. The call, "denying a goal scoring opportunity" is the same one yard inside or outside the box. What am I missing?
Just thought I'd chime in with, I like the game better without technology. Once we put our toe in the water, there's no taking it out. I can see us eventually whining about power surges-failure, venue differences, pro-versus amateur, colleges will think they have to have it then high school, others countries not having the same level of capabilities. It's never ending now. Are drones in the future. We can't stand being wronged. Life is now going to be fair.
wooden ships personally I agree with you. I always thought our game is perfect. I never liked changes to our game. After a while I accepted it. One of the reasons I do love our game was because it has relatively less changes then any other game.
Coaches try to teach players how to use the changes to their advantage. I am sure they will do that with this.
Problem is the average fan doesn't even know what good football is when they see it. They just see what's going on near the ball. The fun part is what is going on farther from the ball. They don't know that our game is a physical game so they think all contact is a foul.
With our under 19s and we had very good under 19s. When we let them play our adult team in a friendly they had a rude awakening to what the real game is all about. They are not going to get a foul called on all physical play.
They have to get used to playing the adult game.
They also see first hand how important a team captain is in a game. He is even more important on the practice field.
What is that going to change in the future God I hope not. At least I won't be around to see it.
I also played our collision American football.
I never thought I would see the coach calling plays for the quarterback in a HS game or in a sand lot game. The quarterback can't even call an audible from what they see on the field.
talk about over coaching no decision making allowed on the players.
That is why our game is the best game every player is a decision maker.
If I had my way, I preferred playing without substitutes and without coaching from the sidelines. This is what first attracted me to the sport in the 1960s. I blame the rule changes for increased pressing and less opportunity for players to be creative and to dribble. More zone pressing means less man marking and less tackling. There is less need to control the pace of the game and it is harder to play a possession style match. Physical strength and size become more important and technical skills less so.
I also really hate penalty kicks. This was purely a concession to television and the desire to make money.
I agree with all of it.
I think it was the Brazilians that may have started the zone defense. Less chasing players and when they won the ball a faster transition to their offensive shape. It was a smart move for them.
I like trying to counter right after winning the ball first. If you can't start it by the third pass then go with the possession game.
I started to play in the early 60s. I had run away from home to get away from a crazy father. He regular with hit my brother and I with closed fists and would burn my mother with cigs.
Summer time I lived in Jefferson park in Italian Harlem. I saw an Italian adult soccer team playing and fell in love with the game. One day the coach finishes practice and gives me a ball and says practice. That started me playing the game. One of the reasons I went to coaching while still playing was I wanted to help the player like he helped me with my game.
Gentlemen -- in American football, replay rules have been around for twenty years, but it still hasn't filtered down to high school and isn't used much around lower college levels. Don't worry too much if our top levels start using it. It should shorten all the discussions with referees if an official off the field makes a change or verifies.
Replay and final decision should be no more than 15 seconds...as for the status of the game, it's getting worse when referees don't punish culprits who delay the game, foul off the ball, etc. Saw an MLS game 08/27, offensive player kicks the ball out of touch and his teammate kicks a ball unto the field to delay the game; referee saw nothing wrong. Why have laws of the game when they are not enforced.