What They're Saying: Miguel Aguilar

“He’s targeting people like myself. I think that’s grounds to be concerned.”

-- LA Galaxy midfielder Miguel Aguilar, among the more than 861,000 undocumented immigrants who received protection from deportation under President Barack Obama’s DACA program and whose future in the USA is uncertain under President Donald Trump's immigration enforcement policies. (Los Angeles Times)
57 comments about "What They're Saying: Miguel Aguilar".
  1. Nick Daverese, February 28, 2017 at 8:31 a.m.

    Besides being illegal is he a felon has he commuted crimes while here. If he has not he should stop worrying about nothing. He will be fine.

  2. don Lamb replied, February 28, 2017 at 9:11 a.m.

    I know illegals who were deported for traffic tickets during the Obama administration, so two things: a) this idea that the Obama administration treated illegal immigrants better than actual citizens is stupid, and b) the idea that only criminals have reason to be extremely concerned right now, given the rhetoric and policies of Trump, is also false.

  3. :: SilverRey :: replied, February 28, 2017 at 9:50 a.m.

    They are kicking out more than just felons. If you have anything on your record - including driving offenses - the dragnet has a chance to grab you and throw you out.

    People are now walking around carrying their birth certificates on them to prove they were born in the US. When was the last time you had to carry around your birth certificate?

  4. :: SilverRey :: replied, February 28, 2017 at 9:57 a.m.

    @don

    Obama fixed that in 2012
    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/dec/22/local/la-me-1222-immigration-detention-20121222

  5. don Lamb replied, February 28, 2017 at 10:16 a.m.

    Thanks for sharing, SR.

  6. Bob Ashpole replied, March 1, 2017 at 12:33 a.m.

    The other day customs, with full knowledge of who he was, prevented Mohammed Ali's son from entering the country for 10 hours simply because he is Muslim. If you don't think people have been wrongfully "deported" by the government before, you need to read some history of the early labor movement in the US. In history panic over some perceived threat has repeatedly lead to the trampling of people's rights, later regretted.

  7. Fire Paul Gardner Now replied, March 1, 2017 at 10:08 a.m.

    Actually Trump's deportation policies make us less safe because instead of focusing on criminals, USCIS has been told to just deport anyone at random. Given the reality that our resources will only allow us to deport so many people, I'd rather focus on criminals than regular people who came here looking for a better life for themselves and/or their families.

  8. Bob Ashpole replied, March 3, 2017 at 2:41 p.m.

    Nick NIS (now renamed USCIS) is arresting dreamers with expired 2-year work permits issued by Obama. Given Trumps position on Obama's policy, I suspect the White House has directed USCIS to stop processing applications for new permits. So Nick the law abiding dreamers are being kicked out too.

  9. Nick Daverese, February 28, 2017 at 9:34 a.m.

    Wait and see Dom. Unless the Republicans can influence trump.

    Trump is a democrat who ran as a republican and won.

    Like Bloomberg did to become mayor of NYC.

  10. don Lamb replied, February 28, 2017 at 10:15 a.m.

    I have seen enough, Nick. Nonetheless, there is still plenty that we do need to see, including Trump's taxes and the depth of the Russia connections to his administration.

  11. Nick Daverese, February 28, 2017 at 11:04 a.m.

    Do yourself a favor stop watching the news.

  12. don Lamb replied, February 28, 2017 at 1:52 p.m.

    lol. That sounds like a great idea. Then I can just take Trump at his word and hear exactly what he wants me to. Should We can fully trust everything that comes from him and his administration, right?

  13. Bob Ashpole replied, March 1, 2017 at 12:19 a.m.

    The one good thing to come from this election is that more people are watching the news and becoming engaged. The one good thing to come from the administration's attacks on the press, is that the press is motivated to improve reporting.

  14. Nick Daverese, February 28, 2017 at 4:27 p.m.

    He is always on the news. He is going to speak to congress tonight going to watch that.

    What your on his twitter fortunately for me when I am home I would rather do other things that watch the news.

  15. don Lamb replied, February 28, 2017 at 5:36 p.m.

    What do my news watching/reading habits have anything to do with how honest the White House is? The fact that you cannot answer a simple question about the integrity of President Trump is a humongous red flag.

  16. Andrew Brown, February 28, 2017 at 5:55 p.m.

    Ummm how does one hold a job at a legitimate firm without working papers?

    I'm assuming this guy never plans to attend games in Canada or CCL games outside the country?

    How does the league even allow him to play without working papers?

    Doesn't he technically count as a Mexican player and have to file FIFA paperwork to join a US league?

    Makes zero sense to me for the Galaxy to publicize this guy's status. It can't end well for him or the Galaxy.

  17. Bob Ashpole replied, March 1, 2017 at 12:51 a.m.

    The Obama administration issued work permits to over 100,000 dreamers while Congress debated for 15 years over various bills to legitimize their status and incorporate them permanently into US society. Now the Trump administration is leading a backlash against federal and state stopgap measures taken while Congress dithered. This treatment of the dreamers is disgraceful.

  18. Nick Daverese, February 28, 2017 at 8:11 p.m.

    Trump and Obama and every other president are all liars.

    How many people do you know that have integrity.

    See how long your friends will stay your friends if they ask you for a favor that would put you out like a lone.

    I know that and you know it to.

    Let's stick to our football.

  19. don Lamb replied, February 28, 2017 at 10:27 p.m.

    Maybe so. But the way that Trump lies assumes that everyone he is speaking to is a complete idiot, and it causes me to seriously question his intelligence and motivation.

  20. Nick Daverese, February 28, 2017 at 11:10 p.m.

    Yes he is using his new position to become a billionaire.

  21. don Lamb replied, March 1, 2017 at 7:41 a.m.

    He's not just after money; he is a whore for attention and status. But, yes, money has always been an obsession of his. Don't you think that we should at least see his tax returns?

  22. Nick Daverese, March 1, 2017 at 12:45 p.m.

    all it would show that he paid no income taxes because you can deduct your losses.

    It's not a big concern to me. I wonder if Putin his buddy paid any income taxes.

    He got plenty of attention and status before he ran for president. Why he felt the need to be president is beyond me. He could not have thought he would actually win. I think any one of the republicans who ran would have beat Hillary except they relied on others to run their campaign. Instead of doing it himself. But the press would have been on hillaries side.

    I am a democrat but not a progressive democrat. So I would have never vote for her. He was the only one left.

    What I don't like about him was he never played our game.

    I don't like any one here who did not play. We are the minority in the US. Soccer lives matter.

  23. don Lamb replied, March 1, 2017 at 2:03 p.m.

    If that is all that his tax records would show, then he would have released them by now. His reluctance to show them suggests that there is something that he is hiding. And given the way he does business, we have reason to be suspicious. For being a Democrat, you seem to be giving Trump quite the pass. His rhetoric about abolishing the EPA (or at least repealing regulations that will allow corporations to abuse the environment for a quick buck) given today's environmental concerns is another thing that scares me.

  24. K Michael, March 1, 2017 at 1:08 p.m.

    I lock my doors at night, not because I hate outsiders, but because I love my family. I also know at all times who is in my house, and why. Every sovereign nation on earth has rules and regulations on immigration, work permits, etc., most much more stringent than us.

  25. Fire Paul Gardner Now replied, March 1, 2017 at 2:17 p.m.

    Every country on Earth has stricter rules on immigration than us? Sounds like you need to get out more.

  26. K Michael, March 1, 2017 at 1:13 p.m.

    Amusing how the left is suddenly pushing the "red under my bed" meme with POTUS. Not a whisper of concern for actual Russian collusion (Hiss, Rosenberg, Oppenheimer, Cronkite, Ed Kennedy, et al) over the last 70+years but the fake collusion has you guys in a twist. Quite funny if it weren't so pathetic.

  27. don Lamb replied, March 1, 2017 at 2:17 p.m.

    K - The amusing this is that you are calling it "fake collusion" without having any knowledge one way or the other whether it is fake or not. I am not sure either, but I am not dismissing that it either could be true or it could not be true. There are certainly some reasons to be suspicious since Trump will not release his taxes, since he has a weird public admiration for Putin, since he has proven himself to be a liar about things that are demonstrably not true, and since there are clear ties to Russia that should raise immediate questions, if not concern. Meanwhile, you are willfully stating something that you have no way of knowing whether or not it's true. That sort of blind faith is dicey, especially when you are trusting someone with the track record of Trump and people like Bannon.

  28. Nick Daverese, March 2, 2017 at 12:50 a.m.

    Hey maybe Trump had ties to organize crime like Fat Tony Salerno and the Chin Gigante remember his rivals and the press said that. They wanted his tax returns all the way back to the 1980s.

    Hey he did buy cement from Salerno legitimate cement company. Every builder did that or they did not build.

    He did sell his name the trump limo for the first stretch limo. The invented of the first stretch was a guy nick named Dillinger because he was a thief before he invented the stretch. The Chin advanced him money to start his business.

    The Dillinger company still exists today even though the inventor is long gone.

    If trump released his taxes you would see he did not have any personal income. Because you can write off your loses. But he paid a lot of other taxes.

  29. don Lamb replied, March 2, 2017 at 8:50 a.m.

    Nick - The fact is that you have no idea what Trump's taxes would reveal. You are not only willfully ignorant on this, but you are making claims that you have no way of actually knowing. You are trying to defend Trump, but you are actually just talking out of your ass, which is largely how he got elected. That line of reasoning might work on those who are uneducated or fearful of the world, but not on me.

  30. Nick Daverese, March 2, 2017 at 1:05 a.m.

    On locks for your doors. It stops honest people from taking what you own. It does not stop professional thieves or guys who you let in to clean your carpets.

    I had two carpet cleaners in from a famous company to do that. Of course I did not sit with them in those rooms and watch them do it. But I have cameras in every room in the house and I can watch them on my iPad.

    One of them took a gold wrist chain of mine that I had in a bedroom.

    I waited until they finished the work and came down for their money before I showed them the recording. Then I got the chain back and I had them paid for cleaning my carpets all they would be arrested or I would tell their employer that they had thieves working for them.

  31. Nick Daverese, March 2, 2017 at 9:22 a.m.

    I have no idea about your mothers taxes either. But I mind my own business about her.

    Don't ever answer a post I make again because you got a foul month on you. When I was a kid Italians used to eat the head of a lamb. Eyes everything it's illegal now. But you can still get it illegally or in Florida.

  32. don Lamb replied, March 2, 2017 at 10:47 a.m.

    Is my mother the president of your country? Your positions show that you lack common sense and skills of reasoning.

  33. Fire Paul Gardner Now replied, March 2, 2017 at 10:53 a.m.

    Makes no sense. Presidential candidates have historically released their tax returns. I'd expect the same if your mother ran for President too. Plus, I didn't see a single "foul" word on any of Don's posts.

  34. don Lamb replied, March 2, 2017 at 11:34 a.m.

    He cheers Trump's political incorrectness, and then gets offended so easily (was it me saying "ass?")... Gets defensive about honest and innocent questions... Makes claims about something that he has no knowledge of (unless he is Trump's accountant)... Starts talking about other people's mothers... Makes irrational demands in an attempt to shut down the conversation... Tells some non-sequitor about people eating lamb heads... Typical, I guess. And sad.

  35. Nick Daverese, March 2, 2017 at 11:38 a.m.

    That long history started in the 1970s. How many billionaire presidents have there been. I may have clothes older then that stored some where.

    Why didn't Hillary show her emails?

    Why wasn't a special prosecutor investigate Benghazi or a billion other things during the obama admistration.

    So many questions why could we see obama care legislation before it was passed?

  36. Nick Daverese, March 2, 2017 at 11:43 a.m.

    When obama care passed my health care plan moved out of my state. My deductible totaled over 3000 a year for my wife and I on our new plane. He said if you liked your health plan you could keep it he lied.

    Should I forget that fact?

  37. Fire Paul Gardner Now replied, March 2, 2017 at 12:11 p.m.

    That's fine. No one is criticizing you for opposing something Obama did. But what does that have to do with a presidential candidate refusing to release his tax returns. Yes, you are correct that this practice started 40 years ago and Trump is the only candidate to refuse to release his returns. Why? Your comment suggests it's fine because he's a billionaire (allegedly). Huh? In any event, Romney released his.

  38. don Lamb replied, March 2, 2017 at 12:18 p.m.

    Nick - Those are issues that I would take seriously, too. I am not going to tell you to forget anything or stop questioning anything. As Nick asks, what does that have to do with your defense of and blind trust in Trump?

  39. Bob Ashpole replied, March 3, 2017 at 7:20 a.m.

    Don, I didn't see where Nick said he was a Trump supporter. He said he is a Democrat who didn't want to support Hillary. The Republicans nominated Trump not the Democrats or Nick. He has just stated some facts and his own views. Don't blame Nick because of the choices on the ballot. You insulted Nick first, so you should have expected an angry response. I don't agree with a lot of people's views but I like people to have their own views.

  40. don Lamb replied, March 3, 2017 at 9:18 a.m.

    If Nick is not a Trump supporter, then why would he not agree that Trump needs to make his tax records public? That does not add up.

  41. Bob Ashpole replied, March 3, 2017 at 2:33 p.m.

    He didn't disagree with you. He just explained what he thought people would see if he did disclose his returns (that due to large losses he didn't pay any personal income taxes). I guess you interpreted that as defending Trump.

  42. don Lamb replied, March 3, 2017 at 3:54 p.m.

    Bob - He (pretty emphatically) suggested that there was nothing of interest to see in Trump's tax records, which could be true or it might not be true. But for someone to state that there is no reason for Trump's taxes to be made public gives the impression that that person is pro-Trump. Ditto re: an investigation into Russia and his ties there.

  43. don Lamb replied, March 3, 2017 at 3:57 p.m.

    On second look, maybe I read it wrong. I took his examples to be sarcastic, but maybe he was serious. Honestly not sure due to the way it was expressed. Apologies if I didn't comprehend the message correctly.

  44. Nick Daverese, March 2, 2017 at 2:22 p.m.

    If not trump who else is President?

  45. don Lamb replied, March 2, 2017 at 3:03 p.m.

    That question passed on Nov. 8. The new question is, "Now that Trump is our president, do we follow him blindly and allow him to dictate every bit of the messaging that surrounds the debates that we as a county must consider? Or, do we hold him accountable and do our best to make sure that, given many warning signs, everything is on the up and up?"

  46. Nick Daverese, March 2, 2017 at 3:35 p.m.

    Remember that when a democrat becomes president 40 years from now.

  47. don Lamb replied, March 2, 2017 at 5:24 p.m.

    I am more worried about 2017 at the current moment, but thanks for the forewarning.

  48. Fire Paul Gardner Now replied, March 2, 2017 at 5:29 p.m.

    40 years? Recall that the GOP was in as bad a shape in 2008 as the Democrats are now. That didn't last too long. Neither will the GOP's current control of all three branches of government.

  49. Bob Ashpole replied, March 3, 2017 at 7:30 a.m.

    Nick, Trump has already split the Republican party that elected him. There is going to be a backlash in the mid-term elections if the scandals continue and things don't improve for the working man. Republicans in Congress are all well aware of the hostile mood of the country. Empty campaign promises are not going to work again.

  50. Nick Daverese, March 3, 2017 at 12:43 a.m.

    It does not happen every day that the three branches are controlled by one party. It did not actually happen now. Trump is not a republican. For that matter Obama was not a real democrat as a remember the democrat party.

  51. Fire Paul Gardner Now replied, March 3, 2017 at 9:47 a.m.

    How was Obama not a real Democrat? He is a perfect example of a garden variety center-left Democrat. Who is a real Democrat then?

  52. Nick Daverese, March 3, 2017 at 9:05 a.m.

    Fact is both parties hate trump. I know I suppose he knows it but he had to deal with them all.

  53. Nick Daverese, March 3, 2017 at 2:48 p.m.

    Fire I will not answer a stupid question like that. How old are you ask one of your older relatives what is a democrat to them see what they say.

  54. Fire Paul Gardner Now replied, March 3, 2017 at 4:16 p.m.

    In other words you have no answer and can't provide a single example. That's what I thought but thanks for confirming.

  55. Nick Daverese, March 3, 2017 at 8:39 p.m.

    What's a matter you have no older relatives.

    Democrat was the working mans party. Do you actually think obama was for the average working stiff?

    Those are my other words to describe him.

  56. Bob Ashpole replied, March 4, 2017 at 2:55 a.m.

    Both parties cater to extreme positions and have shut out the moderates and basically ignored the independents. The think politics is about confrontation rather than compromise. Seems they have confused campaigning with public service.

  57. Nick Daverese, March 4, 2017 at 12:28 p.m.

    All the tea party wants is for us to follow the constitution. Yes they have some money behind them so those the lefties.

    But if you ever saw the tea party guys their older white guys like me. I am not one of them.

    Out for myself to much for that.

    Every see who leads the occupy Wall Street guys. About 10 yrs younger then me radicals.

    I told the kids to go home those guys don't care about them. 2 of the leaders though they could intimate me because there were two of them and they were a little younger then me. Problem they had their was no cops around when they did it. I gave them a couple of fingers in their eyes and said to the kids to go home and left. I should have taken those guys money but I forgot to do it :)

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