U.S. Soccer and USWNT players settle: 'The right moment for the players to agree to something that we are really proud of'
- by Paul Kennedy @pkedit, Feb 23, 2022
Less than two weeks before oral arguments were scheduled to be heard in the appeal of the equal pay lawsuit, the parties announced an agreement to resolve the outstanding claims in their litigation in the U.S. district court in Los Angeles.
The parties have agreed to resolve the equal pay claims for a total of $24 million:
-- U.S. Soccer will pay $22 million to the players in the class-action lawsuit. This amount will be distributed in a manner proposed by the USWNT players and approved by the district court.
-- U.S. Soccer will also pay an additional $2 million into an account to benefit the USWNT players in their post-career goals and charitable efforts related to women’s and girls soccer. Each player will be able to apply for up to $50,000 from this fund.
The settlement is contingent on the ratification of a new CBA for the USWNT and then approval by the district court, where the lawsuit was originally filed.
The settlement comes almost six years after five members of the women's national team filed a complaint for wage discrimination with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and almost three years after members of the women's national team filed their gender discrimination claim in federal court under the Equal Pay Act and Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.
In May 2020, Judge R. Gary Klausner granted partial summary judgment to U.S. Soccer on the equal pay claims. U.S. Soccer and the women's players in the class-action suit later reached a settlement on other claims related to working conditions such as charter flights, hotel accommodations, support staff and venue selection.
It’s been a long arduous journey. But todays news makes me really emotional and happy. Well done to the USWNT players for changing the game for everyone who comes next.
— Meghan Klingenberg (@meghankling) February 22, 2022
Also, Love this photo https://t.co/LROF44CEHS
Why now?
There had been settlement proposals, dating back to before the contentious filings by U.S. Soccer in district court that resulted in the decision by U.S. Soccer president Carlos Cordeiro to resign on March 12, 2020, elevating vice president Cindy Parlow Cone to the presidency.
Since her first media call days after she took over for Cordeiro, Parlow Cone emphasized her desire to seek an out-of-court settlement. In her recent interview with Soccer America, she reiterated her desire to end the litigation "because I don't think that this litigation is good for U.S. Soccer or soccer in the U.S."
What changed?
Oral arguments on the appeal before a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals were scheduled for March 7 in Pasadena, California.
The settlement amount is a little more than a third of the damages of $66.7 million -- including interest -- experts for the women estimated they should receive for their claim under the Equal Pay Act and Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. But a settlement is likely a "win" for the women, current and future players, regarding better terms to a new CBA.
If the Court of Appeals had overruled Judge Klausner’s ruling, the case would have returned to the District Court for trial. Absent a settlement, the case could have dragged on into 2023 and beyond. For the players, the prospect of losing the appeal and receiving nothing was likely an important factor in the decision to settle and not pursue a precedent-setting ruling.
Oral arguments were scheduled two days after U.S. Soccer's National Council Meeting at which its members will vote to elect a president to carry the federation through the buildup to the 2026 World Cup that the USA will co-host with Canada and Mexico. The settlement will certainly boost Parlow Cone's chances of winning her first full term as president in her race with Cordeiro, but the new structure of the voting membership that increased the Athletes' share of the vote from 20 percent to 33.3 percent already made Parlow Cone the favorite.
Alex Morgan, who is a member of the Athletes' Council, said there had been lots of work behind the scenes to get to a settlement.
"We inched towards this moment, for months and months and months," she said on a media call on Tuesday evening. "And it became the right moment when Cindy was able to push this along and the right moment for the players to agree to something that we are really proud of. With the election coming up, I wouldn't say that for the players, this was a moment where we needed to push something across the line. I think that we were eager to get equal pay every single day, starting six years ago. And it happened today and we're really proud of that."
The current and former national team players gathered this weekend in the Los Angeles area, where the U.S. national team played its first two matches in the SheBelieves Cup, providing an opportunity for them meet together for the final days of talks related to a settlement.
"We've been fighting for a very long time," added U.S. captain Becky Sauerbrunn, another member of the Athletes' Council. "And yes, there's an election coming up, but we're also at SheBelieves, and we also had oral arguments coming up as well. So there were a lot of factors, but we've been fighting for this for six years now, since we filed that first EEOC complaint."
A settlement doesn't clear U.S. Soccer's plate of litigation that has cost it ten of millions of dollars to defend -- the NASL's suit against U.S. Soccer, now in its fifth year still has not yet gone to trial, and there's not yet finality to the Relevent suit challenging the federation's right to block foreign leagues from organizing competitive matches in the U.S. market -- but it allows the federation to concentrate on other pending matters.
They include reaching an agreement with the men's and women's national team player associations on new collective bargaining agreements. (Sam Mewis, one of the women's player representatives, said there have already been 35 bargaining sessions.) The settlement announced on Tuesday being contingent on a new CBA with the women certainly helps that process. U.S. Soccer formally made providing an equal rate of pay going forward for WNT and MNT players in all friendlies and tournaments, including the World Cup, part of the new CBA between U.S. Soccer and the USWNT.
U.S. Soccer faces unprecedented activity in the first part of 2022, including the men's national team's possible qualification for the World Cup in Qatar and an announcement on the host cities for the 2026 World Cup, which will put that tournament front and center in the minds of U.S. fans wishing to attend and businesses wishing to be involved.
The Sally Yates investigation into abuse in the NWSL and who knew what and when about the behavior of coaches won't be completed until later in the year, but many of the USA's biggest stars recently pressed Parlow Cone and Cordeiro, demanding accountability from the federation for abuse in women's and girls soccer and asking what steps they will take immediately to protect girls and women playing soccer.
"It is taken a lot of time, a lot of resources, both monetary and people's time to get to this point," said Parlow Cone. "So now we can shift that and focus on all [these] things, growing the game or working with FIFA to equalize World Cup prize money, World Cup '26, and making sure that every one of our members benefits from World Cup '26, and that we make sure it's impacting all 50 states. There's a lot that we have going on at U.S. Soccer. We can shift our focus to fully on the CBA negotiations, which Becky said the players have been fully engaged in and are going quickly. It's just a really complex. CBAs are just complex by nature. And so it takes a long time to get through them. But I think this is a great moment, and I think this does allow us to start to shift our focus from fighting to working together, to achieve all the things that we want to achieve."
Shows how powerful "court of public opinion is"!
Very disappointed with US Soccer but they needed to move on and we're bled dry by legal fees.
Let's see what "equal rate of pay" means as notes in other articles. Will US Soccer be on hook for $38m WC Bonus deltas moving forward?
Wayne, USSF will be "on hook" for whatever amount that they promise in the CBA (which should be the same bonuses as promised to the men).
You are apparently referring to the prize money FIFA awards to the successful national federations. FIFA doesn't give the players (or their clubs) anything. What is done with the prize money is up to the successful national federation.
Bob, you sound like Molly Levinson USWNT council....
semantics....the WC bonuses while technically determined by US Soccer are based on an already determined FIFA WC bonus structure......
Are you suggesting US should cover $38M delta moving forward or offer the men and women bonuses based on WWC bonus structure?
Now is when the Fun Begins....
How much of Their "Take" are the Men going to Negotiate Away.???
Because Without a "Equal" CBA, this Deal Falls thru...
But, it will be after the Election... So it will be "OK"
Or will USSF get some Sponsors to "Make Up the Difference"
Wayne, we are both lawyers so yes we are saying the same thing. Your spin on this, while popular with a certain crowd, is simply wrong.
Santi, the men long ago demanded that USSF conduct one CBA negotiation jointly with both sets of players. They asked for equal pay.
Bob, I Don't think they "Really" meant it... Just playing The "Equity" Game....We shall see now, When they have to give Up a Slice of Their Pie.
Bob, "The Successful Federtation"; Who ALWAYS Have a Pre-Negotiated "Settlement" with the Players and Staff.... In the USA it's in the CBAs ... So, the Men will have to "Give Up" some of their % in the New CBA in order to Equal out any FIFA/CONcacaCrApF/USSF "Friendly" Winnings....
Pretty Simple; Would you want some of the Current Men's Winnings or Some of the Current Women's Winnings.???
Santi, they would be agreeing to a lower bonus payment for winning the world cup. How does that hurt the MNT exactly? It doesn't.
Bob, Is that Sarcasm, as in 100% of 0 is Zero.???
Bob, The Funny thing is...
If FIFA does go with a "Equal" Pay-Out to Womens WC;
Our Men Stand a better Chance of Getting "Money" from the Women Winning the World Cup versus our Men Winning the WC.
I Wonder if the Women have Really thought this Out on a Long Term Basis.???
Hummmmm.??? Just in Time for the Election.!?!?!?
Wow, Did Pulisic just score a Nice TURBO Goal.!!!
It is unfortuneate that the media publishes the information from the deleted instagram post by one of the parties. The media should have assumed that the delited post was illegally made. Bad form.
Why would the media just suddenly start covering this story with unbiased class??
Picture was from Saturday... Rapinoe Re-did her Hair by Tues.
Interesting they are All in the Same "Uniform" NIKE...
Who Paid for that.???
Who Paid for the Room.???
Who is the White Haired Lady in the Picture.???
Weren't some of them in "Camp" with the USWNT.???
Seems like Breaking all Kinds of Co-Vid Proticals.
Did USSF BOD Vote on this.??? I would think that would be Needed.
Does Cindy get a Cut of the "Pay-Off".??? (as a Former Player)
It says 2 Million to Foundation to Fund Former Players "Charities"
28 Players Listed... And what does "On Behalf of all other Situated"
BOB, does that leave the Door Open, to "Late Comers".???
The Math Doesn't add Up.... $2,000,000 / 28 = 71,428.5714....
What about Lawyer Fees.??? Who is going to pay those for the Players Side.???
Class actions typically allow people to opt out. They can bring their own suits separately. I don't know the specifics of this case and the press hasn't reported it. It isn't interesting to read.
Contracts have no value.
Welcome to the modern economy. People buy and sell contracts every day. Do you have a mortgage or a car loan? If you do chances are you have a contract that someone has bought and sold to a third pary.
Basically these chicks living-off what MEN USNT money produce.
These chicks don't believe in equality, just special treatment and extra subsidies on female soccer (no one cares about to see).
Damn... Just Flashed across ESPN... McKenNIE OUT ... 8-12 Weeks.!!!
So, is this 24 million going to Fall out of a "Money Tree" or WHAT.???
I guess there won't be anymore u14, u15, u19, Camps for the next couple of years.!!!
If USSF is using proper accounting procedures, they would have a contingency set aside for the litigation. When a company says that they have a surplus of say $20 million, that is after the contingent liabilities for litigation are recorded.
Bob, how do you "Account" for Money that you DON'T Have and that You Just GAVE Away.!?!?!?
Santi, USSF is still sitting on a big surplus--they were just hoping that they weren't going to have to spend $60M on this "liability". They have most certainly already set aside a contingency pile of cash for this result this calendar (fiscal?) year. Not sure where more funds will come from now that the SUM milking cow has been disassociated.
R2, It will be interesting to See; Who and How the Federation Negotiates their "Deals" without SUM... High Risk, High Reward.
**from pg18 of USSF Financial Statement 2021
"USSF is Currently involved in multiple legal actions. Management believes that there are no pending legal proceedings against or involving USSF where the outcome can be predicted and the financial impact be estimated." ... No Hidden Money for Pay-Off.
pg10....$116million in Net Assets... and this Settlement agreement gives $24million to the USWNT players ... That's 20% of your Assets.!!! Sound Business Practices.???
Are we sure we have the right People Running the Federation.???
Are we sure we want these people Negotiating TV, Uniform, CBAs.. etc... etc... ???
Santi, I did this for a living for decades. A settlement is agreed by the parties. It is what they want. It isn't forced on them except in the sense that circumstances influenced their decision. The court won't approve it unless it's fair.
It's probably a Good Deal for Both(Less so for the women)... USSF would have spent $20 million on Appeal, all the way to SCOTUS... And it's Stretched out Payment over 4 years... Also, USSF will get a CBA, that will be "Clean and Easy and Equal"... WNT get Money, but will loose Out on "Benefits"(Short Sighted on their Part I think)... They had a Sweetheart Deal ... Now they will actually have to "Perform" to Stay on the Team and Make Money outside of USSF.
Will Vlatko ang Ggg now Pool their Salaries and Split the "Baby in 2".???
It will be interesting to see how the CBA negotiations go. Skeptical that the unity between the men and women will hold. This is not a finished deal.
With WC 2026 coming up there is really no issues for USSF affording this deal. It is the 100% correct and proper deal. The girls have been mistreated for a long time. It got complicated b.c. they were almost paid sustinence pay so they needed stuff in the contract so they could literally eat and have a roof over their heads. Since 2007, thousands of boys have passed through DA academies, without paying, financed by USSF to the tune of millions per year, in their transfer payments to MLS and running the DA League, while girls were paying their way in ECNL. Seem fair to you? That was just part of the unbalanced structure and that was the real reason Parlow-Cone closed DA pronto, not because of pandemic, that given reason was window dressing. Hat's off to Parlow-Cone for cleaning up this part of the mess that was left to her. The CBA will be taken care of, in due time. This action was a huge distraction for USSF created by people that know nothing about soccer, and claimed to be bringing 'business' acumen, but were not even good at that. Hopefully this closes the door on the Cordeiro Comeback and the soccer people are allowed to keep going. Well done, fingers crossed.
Humble: You are Conflating So many Media "Story Lines" here... as Wayne was eluding to.
1. WC26: Is a MENs Tournament Spread out over 3 Countries... Lets Hope it comes Off... But, i Don't think we have seen ANY Money Yet... At Least i don't see Any in the USSF Financial Filings for this Year... the 24 million is a LUMP Sum Payment, That COULD need to be Paid Out as Early as Tommorrow, if CBA gets Agreed to.
2. "SUSTINENCE" Pay... You are Mixing NWSL with USWNT Suit... If you go to USSF Website/Governance/Financial Information... Form 990 FY2021 ...You will see a list of Compensation to Employees:
Alyssa Naeher $255,783...Julie Ertz $254,945... Crystal Dunn $253,195 ... etc...etc..
I Wish I was Making that kind of "Sustinence" Pay.!!!... UnClear is if that Amount Includes The FREE Healthcare, FREE BabySitting Care, NWSL Money, etc... and DOES NOT include any "Marketing Sponsorships" they Have on the Side... So, Don't Cry a River for them.!!!
3. DA ... Always a Bad Idea to have USSF Running that, but Not because of the Financial Disparities between Boys and Girls... I wasn't aware until Reading the 2021 AUDIT, that USSF was PAID by FIFA to Run a DA... pg13/22 & pg17/22... $4,683,333 ... Now, who and how they spent that is ON, is an Interesting Question.??? ... Considering there was NO DA in 2021.!?!?!?...I imagine that is Going to Go Away.??? (How does the Head of the Federation have a Job as a Coaching Director for a $14Million a year Pay-to-Play Club.???)... Fair.???
pg21...Spending on WNT2021(11.3million)(2020-36.2million)... MNT2021(6.6million)(2020-15.6Million)
4. Kudos to Cindy for being better at Politics than I figured... Or as was Stated above; "And it became the right moment when Cindy was able to push this along and the right moment for the players to agree to something that we are really proud of. With the election coming up,..." ... But Where out of Net Assests of $124,626,978($8,500,003 of which is a ASU 2014-09 accounting Trick pg10) is she going to come up with the Lump Sum of 24Million.??? That's 20% of your Assests.!!! ... You don't think the Youth Division and Amatuer Division see their Programs being Cut Further.??? ... Going to be an Interesting Election...
5. The "Equity" CBA will Never Happen... The Women will not give up their "Benefits" Package(If they are Smart) and the Men Won't give up their WC Bonus Money, if they are Smart.
Cindy announced at Halftime of US-Iceland game; Women had Agreed to 4 year Payment plan... Let's see; @7% Bidenflation, the WNT will Lose approximately 21% of the Value of the Settlement.... Cindy much Smarter than I thought.!!!
Santi,
1. After Copa American Centenario USSF was sitting on $100m, much of it came from that event. My point is the organization has the earning power to get what they need and much more, based on this even if they don't have it in the bank. I don't see paying the sum as an issue for them. The issue for them is as always, can they deploy their treasure effectively? Most national soccer associations live hand-to-mouth. USSF sat on that 100M through 2020, all they got from it was interest.
2. The ladies salaries you mention are suplimented by USSF becuase the NWSL could/would not. This is my point, men don't have that issue and did not need those details in their CBT. Bradley Jr. and Deuce are doing just fine thank you. The situation on the ladies side was very different from the men when that CBT was signed.
3. DA started in 2007. Girls DA started over a decade later in 2017/18. The original DA was only for boys and was free to most players and financed by USSF. Girls played in ECNL - not free. I cannot accept that this was equitable. I believe boys DA was closed as part of the process to settle the lawsuit, that is my opinion, no one told me, I didn't read it anywhere.
Have a nice day!
Humble;
Good Points...
Especially about the CBA the Ladies Signed... They did Need those Benefits, because NWSL pays so little.
But, that just makes the Point about the Whole Lawsuit, CRYSTAL CLEAR.!!!
They signed an agreement; They got Paid exactly what was in the CBA.
Then they Sued for something that was NOT in the CBA, Something they were NOT Entitled to.
I am NOT saying they didn't Deserve More, Much More actually, for being the Best in the World.
But, any Pay Discrepancy; REAL or IMAGINED, was Not due to "Discrimination" but to Bad Negotiating.
And they Conflated the Issues in a Duplicitous and Political Manner to "Whine" until they got their way.!!!
Well, Be Careful what you Ask for... You might just get IT.!!!
"Equal Pay" from the NWSL, is going to be Nowhere near the MLS,
And, when FIFA does give Equal Prize Money, and they Win the World Cup and Olympics... They are going to have to Share the Winnings, WITH THE MEN(Who are Probably NEVER going to win Either.!!!)
Gee, I don,t know about this issue and the commentaries. Looks to me like the typical short term victory vs the likelihood of a long term defeat, so typical in our country.
I have played here in college soccer ⚽️ for four years from 1956 on, and all in all played and coached on three continents. Here are my concerns:
CBAs are unique to the US and partially Canada because of the Franchise system which does not exist elsewhere to my knowledge. Hard to predict, but this has hurt other professional sports in North America. We will see how this looks in 20 or 30 years.
My biggest worry is that our sport will be subjected to non sporting issues, such as social and cultural conflicts. Megan Rapinoe who played in my home town 4 years is not about soccer but lifestyle. She has been quite open about this. This holds true for the Portland Thorns crowd figures to a large extent also. Just read the Portland media.
Related to the above is the continuing abolishment of mens soccer in colleges with the simultaneous increase in womens college soccer. I have watched a number of my school,s matches in the Big Sky conference and the attendance never came close to 100. Most spectators were relatives and friends of players. Why does this worry me ? Because the trend is to make soccer more and more a "Womens" sport in college, similar to softball and field hockey and volleyball, all of them sports played elsewhere by both genders.
While I am on a rant, let me add another observation FWIW. Why is there so much hullabaloo about the WNT in our media going all the way to the White House?(Pres. Biden,s threat to withhold funding for WC 2026, as reported here). Because the WNT have been so successful on the field, you say. Really ? The Michelle Akers, Mia Hamms and Julie Foudys, yes. But they are not close to being the most successful womens team. That would be the WNT in basketball, undefeated in all international matches. Why the double standard ? Could it be that our BB women have been overwhelmingly black while our Soccer women have been overwhelmingly white? I hope not, but I cannot help but wonder.
Oh my goodness sakes alive, PB, this is some rant. Your comparison of womens BB to our female soccer teams, is not very well thought out - why is women's/girls soccer almost predominantly white, I can provide you with a very simple observation, given my involvement in youth soccer that ran over 15 years here in sunny SoCal: simple enough as the local rec leagues, e.g. ayso, etc., were made up of predominantly wite parents, and ayso rose in largely large "white" dominanat communities, who had the re$ource$ to assist in the enormous evolution of girls playing our sport. I know 'cause my daughter palyed in those rec leagues until such time as she transitioned to club/competitive teams (of which there were very few and far apart.) Re: womens/girls BB play was better received in the inner citiy communities, didn't require a lot of parent's paying so their daughter could play, ad infitum..... So all I can say and close with, is CONGRATULATIONS TO THE WMNT AND THEIR LEGAL WIN!!! PLAY ON!!!
Peter; I wonder what Megan R. Position on Trans-Men taking the Spots of Women in Sports is.???
If one were truely talking equality and/or equity, the USWNT would be paid what any male on a team they can tie or beat would be paid. So how much do the U15 MLS players make? OH! Wait! The USWNT lost 5-2 to them; so the WNT should get paid a little less than those Dallas Players. If I can tie Hosain Bolt's shoes togther I bet I could beat him in the 100 meters.
World Cup bonuses from FIFA to the don=mestic federation are predetermjined. To my understanding, what the domestic federation pays to the players is determined by the domestic federation. It may be more than the federation receives from FIFA.
As a follow up to my comment above, let me tell you of a brief encounter with girl's/women's soccer that dates back to the late '70's and into the early '80s: Before officiating a high school game, I encountered a yound girl playing/practicing by herself, and IMHO was and had pretty good skills. This was at a parochial school (that ironically both of our kids attended when they transitioned from middle sachool to high school) When I asked her where she acquired her skills she told me that her father and brother taught her; she was of European descent, and had grown up in the US; she then asked me if I knew of any girls soccer programs, i.e. teams, and I was very chagrinned and told her the only ones I knew were rec teams, and I'd no knowledge of more competitive teams. Well, she thanked me and proceeded to watch the game.
Moving forward to the early '80's, while coaching at a local state university, I was once again approached by several young ladies, students of the university, and as you might have guessed, they wanted to know how to form a university varsity team. Long story short, incredibly as this may sound, one of the young ladies was the very same girls I'd encountered several years previously and with her help and other young ladies, knowing the unwelcome reception they'd received from the office of intercollegiate athletics, I took a chance and formed a "club" team sponsored by the Assoc. Student Organization, and fortunately, proceeded to join a university club team league - including UCLA, Biola Univ, USC, Westmont College among others. Also, this was just about the time Title IX came into view, and it wasn't long afterwards that these universities and colleges, formed and established women's soccer, my original university CSUN, established a very good program as did the others. But what concerned me is what happened to the players of my first Women's Soccer Club? I heard many graduated and went into the private sector, became teachers, and some even coached some local women's clubs - those that had left the recreational leagues e.g. ayso, etc. I would very dearly love to know about those players, hear from them, primarily to thank them for their tenacity if getting girls/women's soccer on the field, especially now in the vast Latino communities of my region, here in So California. Thanks for reading!
Ric, very nice story!
Not sure what it has to do with USWNT scamming $24M from US Soccer except that maybe some of that money will be redirected from some programs that could help similar young girls......
Yeah, Ric... and they Cut my University Soccer Team, when Title lX came In...
Title lX Giveth and Taketh Away...
OK, ok, ok, I promise this is my last comment on this topic: I mentioned the vast Latino communities of my huge Los Angeles region> Well, amigoes, suffice to say that for various and sundry (some cultural) reasons, our sport has been evolving in our Latino schools and communities, shall we say thanks to a former member of the Mexican Men's National Team, and former head coach of the men's team at CSULos Angelews, Leo Cuellar, who is largely responsible to the surge of young girls and women to embrace the sport in my country of birth. Followed by his son (Chris?) they both can and should take full responsibility for enhancing women's soccer in Mexico, and given that both still have contacts in the Greater Los Angeles area, are able to scout, then recruit and sign young women players to play in the growing Liga Femenil de Futbol. Many teams have also signed many Mexican American female soccer players, from the region, though some have been ID'd by local competitive teams and many enroll in local community colleges where they have a better chance of enhancing their skills, but those with much better skills end up playing in Mexico (this is also applicable to other countries, e.g. El Salvador, Honduras, CR, etc.)
So is no wonder why women's soccer in the U.S. is predominantly white? SA has writend and published a couple or three articles on this issue, and so Latina players are eschewed from being recruited for US teams, yes there are many out there, but they must be given a chance to show their skills; and four-year universities with a women's program must also "spread their wealth..." and recruite them from high school or community colleges, unless we continue to see them all play for their countries of birth or their parent's national origin. Gee, this sure as heck sounds like something we just recently saw from the winter Olympics in Beijing..... ironic, ain't it?
https://alianzadefutbol.com tryouts are now for men and women. which is progress.
Some of you continue to bash on wnt players.
but I promise u if you go out and ask anyone on the street to name any player on womens and mens team the womens player will easily be the women they will identify no even close. The money part is for the ussf to figure out.
but the womens team is always the peoples team.
We been to Vancouver as well Le Havre to watch em play and the feeling in the stadium is unbelievable.
Uffe, They WERE the Peoples Team.
Santi, you might want to rethink whether you are in touch with what the majority of people think. My first and last point is that a majority of people are women.
Bob, even Hope "Hans" Solo is Upset about this Settlement.