El Salvador-USA Concacaf Nations League Ratings

June 14 in San Salvador
El Salvador 1 USA 1. Goals: Larin 35; Morris 90+1.
Att.: 6,313.

What looked to be a scrappy, muddy slog of a game ended up rather entertaining after host El Salvador's 35th-minute goal set up the USA's dramatic quest to avoid its first (and only) loss to Los Cuscatlecos since a 1992 friendly. A red card for each team late in the game added to the excitement. Two players who entered with some 10 minutes left combined for the stoppage-time equalizer. The in-swinging cross from Luca de la Torre floated perfectly for Jordan Morris to head home for a result that fairly reflected the efforts of both teams.

USA Player Ratings
(1=low; 5=middle; 10=high.)


Ethan Horvath was super in last year's 2021 Concacaf Nations League final, but El Salvador's goal was the second time in his eight U.S. appearances that he lapsed badly. (His blunder vs. Portugal Nov. 14, 2017 was worse). The Salvadorans, who scored with a shot from the wing, failed to put another one on target, leaving Horvath with no chance to leave a better impression. All he could do was come out of his penalty area three times to meet Salvadoran long balls, and he controlled them. It will take impressive club performances to pull him back into the World Cup picture, even more than for the other keepers facing the same club playing time challenges.

Player (Club) caps/goals (age)
3 Ethan Horvath (Nottingham Forest/ENG) 8/0 (27)


Right back Reggie Cannon, who had a chance to interfere with Alexander Larin's goal-bound shot, struggled more on the marshy Estadio Cuscatlán field than his backline companions. His frustration showed with two late first-half fouls, the second of which earned him a caution that he had no reason to protest as he did. Left back Antonee Robinson's rate of over- and under-hitting passes wasn't much different than his percentage on pristine grass. He hit a nice cross-field pass that started a neat sequence of combination play in the 11th minute, but when the ball came back to him he mis-hit his cross. Robinson's frequent presence in the offensive half did contribute to the USA's pressure on the Salvadorans. Early on, a poorly positioned Cameron Carter-Vickers allowed a cross that created El Salvador's first chance, a header that went high. Carter-Vickers' central partner Aaron Long caught up to Nelson Bonilla despite the Salvadoran's head start in the 35th minute. He intercepted a few crosses and managed to complete some accurate mid-range passes.

Player (Club) caps/goals (age)
4  Reggie Cannon (Boavista/POR) 27/1 (24)

4  Cameron Carter-Vickers (Celtic/SCO) 11/0 (24)

6  Aaron Long (NY Red Bulls) 27/3 (29)

4  Antonee Robinson (Fulham/ENG) 29/2 (24)


Yunus Musah's second-half forays after he yielded goalkeeper Mario Gonzalez's first save, in the 24th minute, created El Salvador's biggest tests. His 59th-minute shot after flying through the Salvadoran half and a one-two with Tim Weah forced goalkeeper Gonzalez's toughest save. Gonzalez did well to stop Musah's 81st-minute free kick. That was awarded after Ronald Rodriguez was red-carded for denying Musah an obvious scoring opportunity. Tyler Adams misplayed balls in the first half and committed three of his four fouls within four minutes in the second half, the last getting a yellow card for unnecessarily wrestling with Darwin Cerén in midfield. Brenden Aaronson, subbed at halftime, saw plenty of the ball during his first-half appearance but couldn't find a path to the frontline with passing or dribbling. Defensively, he failed to prevent Kevin Reyes' cross-field ball to Larin on the goal.

Player (Club) caps/goals (age)
7  Yunus Musah (Valencia/ESP) 19/0 (19)

4  Tyler Adams (RB Leipzig/GER) 30/1 (23)

5  Brenden Aaronson (Leeds United/ENG) 22/6 (21)


With a bit more penalty area composure, Haji Wright could have at least have forced a save when he shot wide in the 31st minute after a nice pass from Christian Pulisic. On the right wing, Timothy Weah saw little of the ball as the USA pretty much ignored their right flank in the first half. He was notable for a mis-timed leaping kick that missed the ball but hit Bryan Tamacas in the head. (Weah's concern for Tamacas was commendable.) Pulisic, after under-hitting his early corner kicks and free kicks, got cleverer with them later in the game. He failed to get a shot on target but his persistence, which included fetching the ball in midfield, helped wear down the Salvadorans.

Player (Club) caps/goals (age)
4  Tim Weah (Lille/FRA) 25/3 (22)

Haji Wright (Antalyaspor/TUR) 3/1 (24)

6  Christian Pulisic (Chelsea/ENG) 51/21 (23)

A VAR, not used for this game, may have reduced Paul Arriola's red to a yellow, but referee Cesar Ramos saw both Arriola's cleats in the air after his slide-tackle sent him to locker room in the 70th minute. Chest-puffing Weston McKennie nearly got baited into ruining his second-half appearance but on the ball was composed and his through pass to Jesus Ferreira created a chance that was blocked. McKennie hit some decent passes and his impressive dribbling in the 79th minute contributed the USA's late surge. His 90th-minute header from Pulisic's corner kick forced a good save. Luca de la Torre's short appearance again demonstrated he could be the sharpest passer on the squad. His assist on the fine header by Jordan Morris was the kind of delivery forwards crave. 

Player (Club) caps/goals (age)
6  Weston McKennie (Juventus/ITA) 35/9 (23)

Jesus Ferreira (FC Dallas) 13/7 (21)

Paul Arriola (FC Dallas) 47/10 (27)

7  Jordan Morris (Seattle Sounders) 48/11 (27)

6  Luca de la Torre (Heracles/NED) 11/0 (24)

TRIVIA. The tie extended the USA's unbeaten streak with El Salvador to 20 games, but marked their third straight tie in San Salvador following the World Cup qualifying ties last September (0-0) and in 2009 (2-2). The USA now has a 20-1-6 (W-L-T) record against Los Cuscatlecos.

NOTABLE: Antonee Robinson is the only player to appear in all nine U.S. matches in 2022, starting in eight.

June 14 in San Salvador
El Salvador 1 USA 1. Goals: Larin 35; Morris 90+1.
El Salvador — Gonzalez; Larin, Gomez, Dominguez, Tamacas (Claros, 87); Orellana, Martinez, Landaverde (Ceren, 61); Reyes (Molina, 61), Bonilla (Gil, 68), Henriquez (Cabalceta, 86).
USA — Horvath; Cannon, Carter-Vickers (de la Torre, 81), Long, A.Robinson; Musah, Adams (Morris, 81), Aaronson (McKennie, 46); Weah (Arriola, 61), Wright (Ferreira, 46), Pulisic.
Yellow cards: El Salvador — Gonzalez, 85; USA — Cannon 45+1, Adams 76.
Red cards: USA — Arriola 70; El Salvador — Rodriguez 79.
Referee: Cesar Ramos (Mexico)
Att.: 6,313

El Salvador/USA
Shots: 5/10
Shots on target: 1/6
Saves: 4/0
Corner Kicks: 3/7
Fouls: 16/12
Offside: 1/2
Possession: 36%/64%

61 comments about "El Salvador-USA Concacaf Nations League Ratings".
  1. Bob Ashpole, June 15, 2022 at 5:12 a.m.

    I thought Wright did okay in the first half. What was interesting and different is that he played as a traditional CF, not a false 9. Although GB brought in Ferreira to replace Wright at halftime, it was Morris who was the team's striker, not Ferreira.

    Given the field conditions, the best way to play was a very technical smart game that took advantage of the difficulty defenders had making lateral movements and changing speed. You know--positional play. Not a chance with this turbo coach.

    Still the mentality of the team facing adversity was admirably.

    Horvath's error on the opponent's goal was setting up too far from the line in an area of poor footing in anticipation of a cross. On the shot, his view was blocked and he was caught wrong footed. He had no chance. A yard can make a big difference. 

  2. Ric Fonseca replied, June 15, 2022 at 4:15 p.m.

    First and foremost, Coach Hugo Perez sure knows how to coach against the USMNT; after all all his years continuing to hone his own ES obtained personal playing skills with US teams, and USMNTeams, taught him just how the US teams prepare.... and please don't tell me that the US is advancing.  
    Second, the ratings seem to cater to the whims of some of the players, and to give goal scorer Morris a 7 for only a little more than 25 minutes of play, and probably just because he scored, leaves a lot to the writer's imagination.  IMHO I'd given the entire team a 3, and La Selecta, a 5 for taking it to the USMNT.  Having watched Mexico/Jamaica, I must've slept through most of these games, both were equally boring and more of a slugfest than a partido de futbol!!!
    Third and lastly, Coach Perez had to give back to the US for having scheduled previous games in the deep freezers of the US, so folks shouldn't cry when it plays in muddy conditions or in high temperature/humid conditions.  And so, welcome to my casa chavos!!!

  3. Bob Ashpole replied, June 15, 2022 at 8:51 p.m.

    Ric, my expectation was that Hugo provided the best field that he could. Intentionally selecting an unplayable field shows a lack of confidence in his players, which I don't believe he would do. But I don't know him and never even been in the same city as him.

    I give Morris credit too for his earlier header that was blocked by a hand. Serious non-call error by the officials. So he had two shots on goal in his 25 minutes.

    I make it a habit not to comment on ratings because they are always controversial. 

    I wish that I had met half, even a quarter, of the people you have, Ric. My respects.

  4. Santiago 1314 replied, June 16, 2022 at 6:28 a.m.

    I have Stated many Times... The way the USA must play AWAY games in CONcacaCrApF is to PUSH the Ball Deep, Early and High to PIN the WEAKER Opponent in their OWN Third until they SCREW IT Up due to their own POOR Technical, Tactical Decisions.... ESPECIALLY ON WET MUDDY FIELD... Get UP 2-0 and then Play Relaxed "Positional Play"... We should have STARTED the Game, the way we Finished the game.!!!

  5. Santiago 1314 replied, June 16, 2022 at 6:51 a.m.

    1st; Hugo moved to USA when he was 11.. Messi moved to Farça When he was 13... Nobody talks about the "Development" he Got in Argentina... They talk about La Messia... There is No way you can say that Hugo got his "Development" in ES... He is a Product of the U.S. Development "Scheme" at the Time .. Whether that was in Hispanic League or Gringo League it was IN THE USA ... 
    2nd; Morris also had the Header that ES player "Handled"... US Attack became Dangerous when he Entered..  Player that Changes the Game AND Scored the "Saving Grace" Goal Deserves a 7... Agree with your 3 USA-5 ES Rating.
    3rd; Hugo does Not Control the Rain in ES... He didn't "Give Anything Back" to the USA... He didn't Pick or Plan on Playing in a "Aguacero"... If he was Really trying to "Give It Back" he would have played at 3:00pm, not at night.

  6. frank schoon replied, June 16, 2022 at 9:19 a.m.

    You mentioned that nobody mentioned the development Messie got up to the age of 13, or Perez up to 11 at El Salvadore.  Nobody gets developed at that stage of the game, you develop yourself, by playing pickup, fooling around with the ball AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE....that's how kids develop and didn't with a conscious objective in mind saying 'I need to develop'.

    I'm saying from my own personal experience as a 'street soccer freak' player is that the beginning stages when you play nothing but soccer 20-30hrs a week beginning at the age of 8or9 playing mixed ball, your technical skill and touch on the ball is so beyond what a kid here at 15has. So when Hugo came over he had acquired so much that he only had to grow in to the abilities he acquired. I don't know where he continued to play as a kid in the US but I'm sure it was in a latin oriented community....Can you imagine if every US kid played as much soccer, PICKUP, in the first 3-5years, how much technical our boys would be on the US team....

    I don't know how much he soaked up from theoretical side of soccer going to the USSF coaching school, in which I'm willing to bet probably nothing. When looking at how wrong Adams positions in front of his teammate's opponent to ask for the ball, is a perfect example of why he probably didn't  learn much at the USSF coaching....I'm sure you probably didn't either going there....

  7. Santiago 1314 replied, June 16, 2022 at 4:43 p.m.

    I actually learned the most at my "C"... The "B" was under Heddergott, so got a lot out of that.... But Zero at the "A"

  8. Santiago 1314, June 15, 2022 at 5:16 a.m.

    Ah, for the days of Jozy Altidore.!!!...
    I thing I'm living in a Beatles Song Loop... #9, #9... #9.???
    Just for Donald:
    Rah, Rah ...  Great Game USA ... Man, Coach Berhalter really Saved our Bacon with a Great Game Plan and Subbing..... 

  9. Kent James replied, June 15, 2022 at 11:38 a.m.

    Nice (and appropriate) Beatles referenence...certainly the theme of qualifying.

  10. George Miller, June 15, 2022 at 8:01 a.m.

    Cannon, Robinson were terrible. To rate them the same as CCV? Not what I was watching

  11. Santiago 1314 replied, June 15, 2022 at 10:34 a.m.

    You saw it the way I did George 

  12. Seth Vieux replied, June 15, 2022 at 11:22 a.m.

    CCV was quite good, rating him the same as the continually wasteful fullbacks and 2 points lower than Long is pretty laughable.

  13. ARISTIDES SASTRE replied, June 15, 2022 at 3:43 p.m.

    100% in agreement.  From previous ratings it is obvious that he's biased against CCV. 

  14. Andrew Megas replied, June 16, 2022 at 1 a.m.

    Kennedy is a Aaron Long homer. Appreciate he's coming back from injury but he's a 5 at best consistently. CCV 5, but greater upside. Displays nuances the others lack. Robinson 4 ( poor for him) Cannon 3 (really struggled)

  15. Santiago 1314 replied, June 16, 2022 at 8:58 a.m.

    Seth; CCV should have Never Come Out .. Should have been Cannon that came Off... Hasn't Ggg watched any of CCV this year from Scotland.... Great on Headers from Corners and Free Kicks... Poor Coachung... And another Reason Ggg SHOULD BE FIRED.!!!

  16. Santiago 1314 replied, June 16, 2022 at 8:59 a.m.

    Excellent Andrew... Spot On 

  17. R2 Dad, June 15, 2022 at 9:16 a.m.

    I haven't seen the match or " highlights" yet. What were the reds about? If CONCACAF wants to improve play in the conference, field condition would be a good place to start. When your home field advantage is We'd Prefer To Play In A Bog, you've got problems more matches won't fix.

  18. Santiago 1314 replied, June 15, 2022 at 10:33 a.m.

    Arriola got called for Slide Tackle OVER the Ball... Raised his Foot,  to about the Level of opponents knee in the Wet Sliding conditions .. A little Harsh... But NOT something that has Never been seen before... 
    ELS player(Last Player)Took down Musah, about to Breakaway, on thru Pass to Goal... It was about 40 yards from Goal on Wet Field and Musah hadn't even touched the Ball yet( I think.???... It's was LATE at night)... Hard to say it was "Clear Goal Scoring Chance"
    Sounds funny to say both Red cards were Warranted, But both Reds were "Acceptable"

  19. Bob Ashpole replied, June 16, 2022 at 5:43 p.m.

    Santi, it was a through pass and Musah was pulled down from behind 30 yards from goal. Musah would have been 1v1 on the keeper about 30 yards directly in front of the goal. Clearly a foul and therefore clearly an ejection.

  20. frank schoon, June 15, 2022 at 10:36 a.m.

    Too bad about the circumstances we played in. At least the first half was sort of watcheable for the field was still half way decent...In this type of condition players, like Aaronson, etc. ,that are Turbo oriented in their style of play where his immediately reaction is wanting to run and go are just not usefull out there...Weah didn't do anything out there, I don't think he even wanted to be out there. I totally forgot about him until him until the announcer mentions his name after 20min or so. Due to the field conditions, you want lighter type of players in the backfield not players like Carter-Vickers types who are too heavy and bulky.

    Actually, under these conditions you need players who have good ball control, who are not Turbo types, to pass the ball around to the open players and then wait for that short quick sprint WITHOUT THE BALL, going into the opponents penalty area for the kill. But what do we do, we have Weah, Wright, or turbo types making runs WITH THE BALL, under lousy conditions and then attempt crosses that go nowhere or try to dribble and beat an opponent.

    Look at how ES played. They did it right, they passed the ball around ,and didn't to run turbo begin at mid. They passed to the feet of their teammate who passed to another teammate, and you how they play as a UNIT around midfield, for there was always someone open...They open to the side and then try 1v1 agains our A, Robinson who either get nutmegged, tricked,for obviously you're not going outrun AR and especially not in these conditions, as our Goalie learned....

    CP must believe his own PR as described by the commentator as a 'Global Superstar' when actually  he doesn't even have a starting role on Chelsea....CP takes all the free kicks, dead balls, you name it, I wouldn't be surprised if he planned all the accommodations getting to El Salvadore. Considering comparatively his talent on our team ,he should be on the end of these kicks which would make him more of a threat. You mean to tell me out of all talented players we supposedly have no one can take a decent corner or free kick other than CP.

    Again we CP constantly with his butt on the field, trying to beat players running into crowds. I'm glad he doesn't drive a bus for a living ,we'd have accidents in traffic. Somebody has got to teach this kid when and when not to dribble and ask what is the purpose of your immediately dribble for I believe he doesn't what he wants to do....

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  21. Santiago 1314 replied, June 16, 2022 at 9:03 a.m.

    Sorry Frank... Can't agree with you on this one .. Mud Ball, Requires that you Don't "Duck Around" with the Ball... Slam it Down their Throat until they Succumb ... Until as Schwarzenegger the Barbarian says;
    "Crush your enemies
    See them driven before you
    And hear the lamentation
    Of their women…"

  22. frank schoon replied, June 16, 2022 at 9:33 a.m.

    Santi, you see the object ,under these circumstances, is to find areas of the field that are playable, which means making passes that don't require extra touches for your teammate to receive the ball, unlike what we do. The field in the first half was still decent or playable. If you look at ES, they moved ball around midfield there  was  no 1v1 mudfights or slippages, they passed right away to another teammate to move the ball for they positioned well off the ball. We are still at that the stage of wanting to run with the ball under these conditions, that's why CP, Weah, Aaronson ,sucked out there...
    Note, when it comes to ball controll the ES are better at it than us and that is why the conditions out there effected them less. And sure the US team needed to kick the ball long when possible, but they first needed ball control further upfield to do that...that's the problem.  And Adams going all the way back to collect the ball with his teammate's defender in his back, just doesn't cut the mustard...
    Furthermore who are they going to kick it long too, CP and Aaronson seem to be everywhere except where they should be and Weah was out to lunch....

  23. Bob Ashpole replied, June 16, 2022 at 6 p.m.

    I am with Frank on playing on bad fields. This is something I have had a lot of experience with. Bad fields negate physical advantages and reduce the effectiveness of dribbling. You have to adjust your play. It is a bit like playing golf with sand traps and water hazards. I also remember 1 match at halftime after I was unable to cut even with my cleats I changed to moldeds with Kangaroo uppers which gave me great ball control even with the ball coated in mud. I was much more effective with the ball and there was little mobility sacrified by switching. Because there wasn't really any mobility to sacrifice. You pass looking for a player on a good part of the field. The big tactic is quickly switching the attack by passing leaving the opponents stranded in the mud trying to shift laterally. 

    Sorry but you can't count on pressing to win the ball directly. Instead you press to force the opponents to play in the bad areas of the field. 

    This is something you can't teach players with drills and pattern passing. They have to have vision, smarts, and good ball skills. These are things that work well on good fields too.

  24. Santiago 1314 replied, June 17, 2022 at 9:57 a.m.

    Correct you are Bob; Pressing (GegenPress as it is Now called) is just another name for TRAP Zone.... Channel the Ball into Half the field with the 1st Person, Then you only have to Defend 1/2 the Space, this Makes it easier for Secondary Defenders to Anticipate the Next Pass and Intercept it... No Different really than what I Learned at my "C" License .. PRESSURE -COVER- BALANCE

  25. Bob Ashpole replied, June 17, 2022 at 10:37 p.m.

    Santi, the point I was trying to make is that the team should deny the opponent the playable areas of the field and force them to play into the worst part of the fields. So field conditions (which change during play) determine the areas of the field that you deny to the opponent. The principle is the same, but the execution differs.

  26. Ben Myers, June 15, 2022 at 10:49 a.m.

    I'd like to throttle the Fox broadcasters for their hype of Pulisic.  It shows how simply and completely clueless they are about the world of soccer at large.

    The USMNT can be thankful that they will not play soccer in a muddy bog when they get to Qatar.

  27. Santiago 1314 replied, June 16, 2022 at 9:13 a.m.

    Ben, I too look forward to seeing USA on Good Fields with Good Refs and Good Opponents... I think we have a Starting 12... That can Compete with ANYONE... Not necessarily the Best Players, but capable on "Any Sunday" of Beating Anyone.

  28. frank schoon replied, June 16, 2022 at 9:46 a.m.

    Ben, I love your expression, "Throttle those announcers!"  LOLOLOL

  29. Bob Ashpole replied, June 16, 2022 at 6:05 p.m.

    Ben, speaking from experience sand is just as bad as mud.

  30. frank schoon, June 15, 2022 at 11:04 a.m.

    If you look at the difference between ES and USA  style of play, that even under the lousy conditions, ES is able to pass the ball around and play as a unit where ever it is necesarry, which we don't. Our midfield play does not play as a unit together. We look at Musah, he basically goes forwards has no connection to own midline. Adams sort of around moseys, and when Long or Vickers have the ball, he comes to them positioning in front of their opponent to ask for the ball.

    The first thing you learn in building up an attack from the back is to make your pass BEAT or BYPASS your opponent, so you have one less to content with... Adams gets in front of the opponent who either guarding Long or Vickers instead of behind  in the opponent's blinds spot. How long has this kid been playing pro-ball now? Have any of his coaches ever told him that? Furthermore by positioning  in front of his teammate's  opponent, he in fact positions himself with his back facing downfield with little or no fieldview , thus forcing him to turn with the ball.

    Next by his positioning like that, he reduces our midfield, manpower. So you have to ask yourself do we need 5man in the backline when he drops back thus leaving 2midfielders left at mid...The other damage he causes is by positioning in front of the opponents and not behind is that he therefore doesn't force an opponent midfield to commit which would happen if the pass made to him beat an opponent....These are simple ABC's of soccer that GB and his coaching staff at this level should know.....

    I think now the coaching staff finally got the message that Morris is most effective in the last 25meters ON THE RIGHT SIDE, not LEFT!!!! He contributed to the goal also in the last game  when playing on the right. NOTICE, also that the Morris tends to PENETRATE better when on the right side and perhaps make things happen that doesn't necessarily require great soccer skills....

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  31. frank schoon, June 15, 2022 at 11:21 a.m.

    I'm NOT IMPRESSED with the so-called #9, Wright , Fereira, Pepi, NONE of them, non are creators.  For them to score someone has to pass to them and they run and shoot...Why we don't give Sargent a chance is beyond me but if the coaching staff can't figure out that placing Morris on the leftside is a losing proposition, than I can understand it...

    I'm trying to understand the role CP plays, or wants to play. He over-utilizes himself. In this particular game, when they switched to a 4-4-2, with him as one of the strikers he should post himself up front and wait for the chance to get the ball and score for there will be plenty of chances. But where do I see him, going backward towards midfield, going further back towards our backfield, then all of a sudden he's on the right flank with Weah.....He's everywhere where he shouldn't be except WHERE HIS STRENGTH LIES......

    He reminds me of how a striker up front would run out of the middle towards the side line to receive a pass. He's thinking, 'I'm away from my defender,' and the defender is thinking 'go ahead' make my day you're no longer a threat out there'. Instead ,he should stay in the middle guarded by opponent and wait this his defender turns his head or eyes away from watching him. And in that split second you make your move to the goal. This is how you play smart soccer instead of making a world tour out on the field and not acccomplish anything....

  32. Santiago 1314 replied, June 16, 2022 at 9:09 a.m.

    I don't see any Viable Solution to the #9 "Striker" Position... Time we "Buy Into" the False9... Reyna Starts there... Jesus is the Back up, with Aaronson the other Option as a #10, In 4-4-2... With 2 up Front being Wingers, CP and Weah(Not Dual Strikers)... Plenty of Space for McKenNIE, Aaronson Reyna, Musah to "Run the Center Channel.. (Which is what they do already and plays to Their Strengths)

  33. frank schoon replied, June 16, 2022 at 9:44 a.m.

    Santi, maybe? who knows? whatever works for this crew. I haven't seen Reyna play in a long time, and I don't know how much he will add to the game, when you consider he's going to be playing against the 'big boys' at the WC.  We have noone with 'shooting power' coming up from midfield. Have you noticed the lack of good shooters with power in today's soccer. Remember in German Soccer in the 70's, 80's the goals scored with power outside of the penalty area. I've to admit Bacelona with their Ticki-tacki, tacki-wacki, produced a pattern whereby goals scoring was done from inside the penalty...It seems like everyone now wants to score from inside the penalty box and no hard shooting. With that in mind that requires more give and go's and short passes in crowded areas which we ARE NOT GOOD AT. Realize most of our players in Europe play in countries that have Turbo soccer, Germany and England.

  34. stan kull, June 15, 2022 at 11:31 a.m.

    During the game I was thinking Hugo Perez has done a very good job of getting "lesser" players, than the US has, to play a team game with good patterns of play.  Imagine if Perez was the US coach, and what he could do with the US team.  I don't think Berhalter is the right coach for this team.  After last night's game there should be a change.

  35. frank schoon replied, June 15, 2022 at 11:57 a.m.

    Stan, I wish it was that simple, although I agree with you to a certain extend. Morris will certainly not become a better thinker or more technical if Perez was coach....perhaps he can be more effective than what GB has done to Morris....Having Perez as coach , I would like to see,  realize you can only do so much the type of developmental players you have.

  36. Bob Ashpole replied, June 15, 2022 at 2:41 p.m.

    Frank, I agree with you. The point is that GB is having limited success as a coach. A different coach may be able to get more mileage out of the players. 

    Like the points you made earlier about Adams. I believe he is playing exactly as the coaches have instructed him. This is conventional USSF doctrine for attacking tactics.

    It is kind of a chicken or the egg--which came first--question. Did El Salvador play better because they had better talent or because they had better coaching? Hugo has demonstrated that he knows the game and can work with less than optimal players. Hugo knows the USMNT as well as any coach today. There was never any question in my mind that GB was going to be outcoached again.

  37. Bob Ashpole replied, June 15, 2022 at 2:49 p.m.

    Let say it differently. Historically the USMNT have been overachievers. Since Bob Bradley left, the USMNT have been underachievers. Since the player pool today is promising, I conclude it is the coaching. Regardless of whether it was JK or GB, they were not the right coach for the job.

  38. frank schoon replied, June 15, 2022 at 3:11 p.m.

    Bob, I don't know how much better the team will be with Perez as coach. I assume he might use players differently, but lets face it , turbo is turbo that is a dna our players have grownup. The ES players grew up differently ,short passes, no turbo ,more control and therefore making it easier for Perez. I assume if GB was ES the team be passing better, ball movement would also be better but that's because due to the nature of the animal....This is why I say Perez is not the Salvation were want although he would do a much better job than GB.

    But how I see how Adams play has all to do in how he's been coached throughout his development... To stand in front of your teammate's opponent asking for the ball is just plain stupid!!!!! What happen to opening yourself up to the next station ,having adequate field view and not have your back facing downfield, and just in case if the pass is bad and being so close to your own goal this can not end well....There are reason why you shouldn't do what Adams does....And if the coaches don't see this than we have problems....

  39. Santiago 1314 replied, June 16, 2022 at 9:04 a.m.

    Correct you are Stan

  40. Bob Ashpole replied, June 16, 2022 at 6:22 p.m.

    I am really outdated, because I was born in 1951. My experience, however, is that there were plenty of US players who were developed in a non-turbo environment. 

    For the greatest part, they don't get selected by elite boys youth coaches who go for the early bloomers and then exploit their physical advantages. That means they have them play turbo. That doesn't really change until about age 16-18 because there is no longer an early bloomer advantage. But then as you pointed out the USSF elite players are forever deficient in their ball skills because while they can improve they can never reach their full potential.

    Where I found the best USSF success was in the West and Southwest where Hispanic soccer leagues fed young kids into USSF clubs and leagues. In Texas and California even today you can't separate the Hispanic influence from USSF soccer, even though USSF has done everything they could to stop it by banning thier players from playing for Hispanic teams.

    Donovan and Dempsey are just two examples of USMNT stars who developed early playing in Hispanic, AYSO and USSF leagues. Not happening with today's players. In the past we had players that came from soccer families who influenced their early development. That is still happening today, but how many kids have professional or former collegiate athletes as parents?

  41. Bob Ashpole replied, June 16, 2022 at 6:36 p.m.

    I should also mention that in the Southwest many USSF and scholastic coaches are Hispanic. Thankfully.

  42. Kent James, June 15, 2022 at 11:57 a.m.

    I'm glad the US was able to at least salvage a draw. The ES keeper had a great game. Of course the field conditions were atrocious...I was surprised we passed (and dribbled) as well as we did, given how bad the field was. 

    Great shot by the ES player who clearly caught Horvath looking for the cross; unfortunate for Horvath, given our keeper situation, that's probably it for him.  

    Generally, I think these ratings were accurate.  Long played a lot better than he had in previous matches; it's a little hard to rate defenders when they don't have a lot to do.  At halftime, I think Long and CCV were the only players with clean shirts.

    The best players on the night were Musah (he carries the ball forward so well), Aaronson (always making things happen) and LDT (we need to keep giving him the ball).  Pulisic also played well.  It was nice for Morris to score, and it was great for the team (which really seemed to gain energy from the fracas started when Adams bodyslammed the ES player...I'm curious as to what inspired Adams to do that).

    The referee had a tough night.  ES players were going down at the touch of a feather (the ref did start to ignore some of them), and I thought he could have pulled at the cards a lot earlier than he did (I think Pulisic was fouled 4x in the first 20 minutes).  The red card against Ariolla was clearly excessive; Ariola's tackle was from the side of the player (a blocking tackle), he did not go studs up over the ball (where the studs would end in the opponents leg).  Since he did not get the ball, a yellow was certainly warranted, but not a red (especially given the ref's reluctance to give cards earlier).  The red card against ES was probably a make-up call (there was some contact, Musah probably milked it a bit, it was a long way from goal, but it was last man).  It was borderline red, but given the previous red, he was right to give it.  He also missed a blatant handling call in the box.  But to be fair, it was a tough game to ref. 

  43. Bob Ashpole replied, June 15, 2022 at 2:55 p.m.

    My understanding of the current guidance is that the referee has no discretion. If the conditions are met and it is outside the penalty area, he must eject the player for the foul. 

  44. R2 Dad replied, June 15, 2022 at 3:13 p.m.

    Ref made a mess of the match, like he didn't want to card in the first half and then overcompensated for it in the second after the match started spinning up. Typical CONCACAF.

  45. John Soares, June 15, 2022 at 12:31 p.m.

    " Artificial Turf "

    How wonderful it would have been!

  46. Wooden Ships replied, June 17, 2022 at 12:53 a.m.

    No. Turf is not helping our players. I liked and like challenging field conditions. Separates the skilled from the less so, the crafty/sublime from the confused. 

  47. Bob Ashpole replied, June 17, 2022 at 1:09 a.m.

    John, have you played in a hard rain on artificial turf? It is like playing on a slip and slide. The ball hits puddles you can't see and other times skips like a stone on water. Nothing is better than playing on a good grass field. 90% of soccer players never get the chance to play on a quality field. They are expensive to build and maintain.

  48. John McGinty, June 15, 2022 at 1:34 p.m.

    Wow does one other reader of this media outlet like Antonee Robinson as I do? I think he rates average overall for USMNT. He is never injured, runs the entire game, doesn't do stupid things like McKennie does occasionally, plays regularly for a PL squad (CL last year) and is the only reliable playmaker on the left side. Yes his crosses don't always connect, but his bursts of speed in the final third and his tracking back last night were substantial. That's why Berhalter plays him every game.
    Pulisic criticism is silly...he didn't ask to be called a "global superstar" but yes he is far and away the best and most consistent USMNT team player and his grit the last year for the team has grown substantially. It is not his fault Chelsea and Tuchel manage him as they do, I believe. He has had some very important goals for them in the most crtical matches. Outside of goalies he has had the most impact in the EPL at his age than an other American historically. Enough said. 
    Luca de la Torre best midfield passer period, should play in every game going forward, whether starting or off the bench. His assist was brilliant last night. 

  49. Kent James replied, June 15, 2022 at 2:47 p.m.

    At least one reader agrees with you...Antonee ain't perfect, but he adds a dimension most other players can't (his speed in the first few yards).  His touch is pretty good, his crossses are getting better.  He can be a bit of a bull in a China shop, and his defense is sometimes inconsistent, but his speed lets him recover from mistakes faster than most.  I think he's getting less predictable when he has the ball, so defenders can't just assume he's going to blow by him.  I also agree with you on Pulisic and LDT.  Since we have a lot of good midfielders, I'm not sure LDT should start, but he should definitely get in the game; he is excellent on the ball, I am not sure of his defending qualities.  But he has consistently played well for the USMNT.

  50. Bob Ashpole replied, June 15, 2022 at 3:05 p.m.

    If you judge A. Robinson by how many times his play is effective, you might not even let him dress. That he starts says horrible things about our depth at FB. Either that or it says horrible things about our coach. Either way he is a negative even if you are a fan of turbo ball. He is fast and that is all he offers the team. What he does at his club only gets him a chance to prove he can be effective at the international level. He has had his chance and he is not international quality.

  51. Bob Ashpole replied, June 15, 2022 at 3:09 p.m.

    In my mind the role model for FB is Steve Cherundolo. I think he is the most underappreciated US player. How he supported Donovan in the attack should be studied by any would-be FB. 

  52. Santiago 1314 replied, June 16, 2022 at 9:17 a.m.

    John, I think Jedi is a Good player for USA in a "Wide Open" Box-to-Box game... He's Pretty Useless in a One Sided Tiki-Taka Half-Field Possesion Game...  Sam Vines is the Combo Player USA needs at Left Back in those Games.

  53. Bob Ashpole replied, June 16, 2022 at 6:31 p.m.

    Santi, isn't that the supposed US game plan? "Play out of the back" to make it become a "One Sided Half-Field Tiki Taka Possession Game"! When we lose the ball we immediately counterpress, win the ball high up the field, and resume the "Possession Game". 

    I am not blaming you for the disconnect between what the coach says and how he actually coaches.

  54. Wooden Ships replied, June 17, 2022 at 1:05 a.m.

    Vines is the most technical and instinctively adroit outside back we have and that includes Dest. The attacking threat he brings, regardless of style of play, is enough to tactically compensate during the flow. He is the only one skilled enough to give Pulisic pause with many of his undisciplined forays. And, there is not another back or midfielder, not counting Torre, that will deliver a couple two or three sitters per match. Too many among us are still infatuate with the athletic component first. 

  55. frank schoon replied, June 17, 2022 at 7:28 a.m.

    Ships, Well said, Damn , I wish I could express myself so , clear and precise in English....

  56. Anthony Petgrave, June 15, 2022 at 3:13 p.m.

    ...very generous ratings, IMHO.

    The entire back line was poor to my eye, I would only give ...
    CCV a passing grade...6
    Cannon is pants, not sure how he consistently makes the side... 2
    Long cannot provide an out ball of any quality.... 3
    Jedi was his consistent self ... 4
    Tyler Adam's has lost the plot. He fails to see the game at pace. He appears to a 2-dimensional player. He should know where his teammates are ...BEFORE receiving the ball, IMHO... 3, generous!!!
    The midfield was OK.
    Musah showed that he's one for the present, i.e...he show up when it counts.... 8
    Morris...4, he scored, else wasted the time given.

  57. Anthony Petgrave, June 15, 2022 at 3:13 p.m.

    ...very generous ratings, IMHO.

    The entire back line was poor to my eye, I would only give ...
    CCV a passing grade...6
    Cannon is pants, not sure how he consistently makes the side... 2
    Long cannot provide an out ball of any quality.... 3
    Jedi was his consistent self ... 4
    Tyler Adam's has lost the plot. He fails to see the game at pace. He appears to a 2-dimensional player. He should know where his teammates are ...BEFORE receiving the ball, IMHO... 3, generous!!!
    The midfield was OK.
    Musah showed that he's one for the present, i.e...he show up when it counts.... 8
    Morris...4, he scored, else wasted the time given.

  58. James Madison, June 15, 2022 at 5:13 p.m.

    Except for McKennie and Morris, the ratings are reasnable.  Morris derservesa +1 for his goal, which means a 6.  McKennie deserves  (-) 1 for being a hothead, e.g., running into the mix when Adams was being cautioned.

    None of Horvath, Cannon or Wright added much to their chances of visiting Qatar, if anything.  

  59. Philip Carragher, June 16, 2022 at 9:33 a.m.

    My first impression of either team was enjoyment watching ES's ball movement. They looked like a team of Hugos out there and I liked the way Hugo played. If playing in the water and mud is so difficult for our players, then have them train in soggy grass and mud at some point. We have muddy fields and mountains and deserts and any terrain our team would find itsef playing on so let's put on our thinking caps and be smart about our pre-Concacaf games. Adams should have been red carded for tossing that player to the ground. That was vicious and hitting the ground is usually much more dangerous that a punch. Good thing the ground was soft. The team is stupid when it comes to how we apply aggression. Adams, Arriola (slide tackle in the opponent's box? Come on. I'm all for hustle but raising his foot that high with both studs showing, it was a proper call. His foot being that high shows intent.), McKennie and even Pulisic's post-Adams knucklehead manuever all should be reviewed by Concacaf or whoever reviews this stuff and at least try to scare our players into behaving more intelligently than their coach may be asking of them. What about GB's influence on this behavior? Look, I truly want our boys to be playing more fluent, flowing soccer but we're way off of that. But how about some class? Some may like seeing this type of aggression but is this all we have? This is our reaction and an acceptable reaction to trying to avoid an embarrassing but would have been justified defeat? Shock and awe? If so, I have no use for a national team that are terrible role models and that includes a coach with no class. This we can correct before Qatar, and I thought the lack of a 9 was our biggest problem.

  60. frank schoon replied, June 16, 2022 at 9:49 a.m.

    Philip, can't agree with you more!!!

  61. Scott Chaney, June 29, 2022 at 6:41 a.m.

    Purce was horrible. Slow, bad decisions, and inept. Why is she out there? Rapinoe, did nothing productive. Too old. Too slow, time to move on. Lots of mediocrity last night. NOT a good lineup. 

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